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    I was reading a book, "Blinded" by Stephen White, it's pure fiction (mystery actually) and came across the following sentence by one of the characters. Bear in mind that the author wrote this book in 2004. The quote is on page 216 of the hardcopy book.

    "Introspection, I mean, I don't much like Indy racing, but I love NASCAR. Why? Traffic is traffic, but most of the time NASCAR is all left turns. You just drive fast, control your speed, hit the pit, react to the other guys. You don't always have to prepare for a haripin, you're not always slamming on the brakes."

    I read this to be the authors perception of Indy car racing IN 2004. What a shame.
    Gary Crossno

  • #2
    Maybe the title should be "BLIND".

    ...---...

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    • #3
      well you said it was fiction
      Live like Dave

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      • #4
        Were there hairpins in Indy car racing in 2004?
        "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him."
        -John Morley

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JBaiza
          Were there hairpins in Indy car racing in 2004?
          It is possible that Sarah used those throughout her career to keep hair and sweat out of her eyes. LSJ definitely did.

          Word has it that Arie also used them regularly.------------------------------
          Natural Born Cynic

          What irks me (maybe its too soon for the truth), DW was a 16-oval WIN specialist, yet the vast majority those boohooing for him, hardcarders & fans, alike are the same ones trying to kill anything with more than 9 deg banking & 4 corners, where Dan ultimately made his home...

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          • #6
            Ah well, I suppose it's comforting to be facetious about things like this. The fact that in 2004 this author was STILL equating INDY racing to the CART era bothers me.
            Gary Crossno

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            • #7
              The book may have been published in 2004 but who knows when the author actually wrote it!

              It is still kind of depressing though.

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              • #8
                One paragraph in one book by one author, anyone who is influenced by or thinks anyone else will be influenced by reading this or spends more than a few seconds actually contemplating it is too fixated on the sport to have much of a life going on. It ain't The Bible, read it and move one.
                "You can't arrest those guys, they're folk heroes"
                "They're criminals"
                "Well most folk heroes started out as criminals"

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                • #9
                  It may help to realize that many more people have moved on from racing than actually watch "Indycar" racing today or in the past ten short years of the new version. They take they memories with them and some of those memories certainly had "hairpin" turns in them.

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                  • #10
                    I can't even figure out from the quoted passage what the character is supposed to dislike about Indycars and like about Nascar.

                    If that's the quality of the writing I think I'll pass on that book.
                    Got to watch out for those Libertarians - they want to take over the government and leave everyone alone!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Coyote
                      I can't even figure out from the quoted passage what the character is supposed to dislike about Indycars and like about Nascar.

                      If that's the quality of the writing I think I'll pass on that book.
                      You don't really think I's waste my time typing the whole page in to get it all in context (from a fiction book no less) so people could keep their heads in the sand without sounding silly trying this kind of tripe to discredit the authors "perception". That's the key here, PERCEPTION and the author is not by himself in that.

                      In addition, I gave the book, author, and even the page so you could look at it in context before making the above comments.

                      For Z28, I don't think the idea of anyone being "influenced" by the book is the point here.

                      Don't get me wrong here folks, I'm not bashing you for the "head in sand" syndrom, heck I had it myself for more than six years.
                      Gary Crossno

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                      • #12
                        "One paragraph in one book by one author, anyone who is influenced by or thinks anyone else will be influenced by reading this or spends more than a few seconds actually contemplating it is too fixated on the sport to have much of a life going on. It ain't The Bible, read it and move one."

                        You missed the point didn't you...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by hdolan
                          "One paragraph in one book by one author, anyone who is influenced by or thinks anyone else will be influenced by reading this or spends more than a few seconds actually contemplating it is too fixated on the sport to have much of a life going on. It ain't The Bible, read it and move one."

                          You missed the point didn't you...
                          i think i did. the author/character prefers nascar to indycar, okay, so what? many people do. i read a book where the protaganist liked brunette hookers but hated blonde ones, why? i don't know.

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                          • #14
                            You don't really think I's waste my time typing the whole page in to get it all in context (from a fiction book no less) so people could keep their heads in the sand without sounding silly trying this kind of tripe to discredit the authors "perception". That's the key here, PERCEPTION and the author is not by himself in that. In addition, I gave the book, author, and even the page so you could look at it in context before making the above comments.
                            I didn't bash your post or even disagree with your point.

                            Too bad that you think I sound silly when I give my opinion that the author writes stilted dialog that doesn't ring true to me as to how someone would actually sound.

                            Ahh, ok the key is PERCEPTION. Glad you EMPHASIZE it so I could GET it. (I did before that). I just didn't get what the characters real needs were in a racing series.

                            If the perception is that Indycars use the brakes more and have hairpin turns, big deal. Don't they? Or won't they in the future as a percentage of roadcourse over Nascar?

                            I guess it doesn't bother me if people still equate Indycars with roadcourses instead of great oval action. The only thing I didn't like was the author's dialog. It didn't sound 'real' to me.

                            I'm a little nervous now. A character in a mystery has a inaccurate perception about Indycars. (I don't know whether the author does or not, he may have the main character be a doof for all I know). Doomed.
                            Got to watch out for those Libertarians - they want to take over the government and leave everyone alone!

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                            • #15
                              i read a book where the protaganist liked brunette hookers but hated blonde ones, why? i don't know.
                              It must have been the authors perception too you know. Author's always write fictional characters as they themselves believe. Or if they write another perspective, it must be one that's shared by millions. Blonde hookers better get a new marketing department to change that perception.
                              Got to watch out for those Libertarians - they want to take over the government and leave everyone alone!

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