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  • Not an Indy car....but this is PRETTY COOL.

    http://www.bonneville400.com

    The BAR F1 team is trying to see just how fast "fast" can get.

    Among the first steps: Lose that rear wing....
    "Only a fool fights in a burning house."-Kang

    "If you listen to fools....The Maaahhhhb Ruuuules....."-Ronnie James Dio

  • #2
    speedtv

    looks like they won't get a shot this year due to rains at the flats but they practiced at a California airport and hit 257 mph
    "Charging a man with murder here was like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500."- Capt. Willard, Apocolypse Now
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    • #3
      I don't understand what in the world they are trying to prove here.

      Take a CC, put the boost back up, add speedway wings and show these Nancy Boys what real speed in. Oh, and do it in the two seater.

      Takin the wings off.... Amatures....

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      • #4
        They are trying to see how fast a race legal F1 car can go. And yes, it is legal without the rear wing. You just would not win many races.

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        • #5
          How about 272 mph with a 1943 International Harvester dump truck
          (slightly modified )
          http://www.ugofadini.com/phoenixstory.html
          REAL race cars have kingpins. :p

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          • #6
            Just grab one of the old 4.0 liter IRL engines and uncork it. It would scream.

            Wasn't there someone who did that last year's annual run? I seem to remember someone posting it here.
            Zoooooooooooom!

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            • #7
              Miles was there the last time, here is what He saw. Cut & paste the address./
              aXe

              http://www.indyracereports.com/2005/Articles/BARHondaAtB'villeAug.htm
              Born Again Race Fan seen at
              www.openwheelracers3.com

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              • #8
                I agree...very

                and in a twisted bit of logic, the BAR F-1 car runs the USGP, hence it is an "Indy" car.

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                • #9
                  Arie's car from 96 with the boost cranked up a little would crank out some good numbers.
                  It went almost 240 going around 4 corners.
                  I am blessed to have witnessed "The Greatest Spectacle In Racing" 50 times!

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                  • #10
                    Paging Mr. Craig Breedlove? Mr. Breedlove?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by akhindallas
                      I agree...very

                      and in a twisted bit of logic, the BAR F-1 car runs the USGP, hence it is an "Indy" car.
                      I guess that means NASCAR cup cars are "Indy" cars too?
                      REAL race cars have kingpins. :p

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dirtfan
                        I guess that means NASCAR cup cars are "Indy" cars too?
                        EXACTLY!! Therefore "Indy" Car racing has just experienced a dramatic recovery and is now the most popular form of racing in the US. The IMS/IRL marketing staff needs you!

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                        • #13
                          The biggest question that has been bothering me is, "Are the Bar Team using Michelin or Bridgestone tyres?"

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                          • #14
                            If you were to ask Darren Manning about this he'd say:

                            "Amateurs, let's see them do it backwards!"

                            If anybody wants to see what an Indycar does at Bonneville I'm sure BB will waive testing limits to let you do it. But, I'd put some safety engine cut-off device to if the car starts to get airborne. At 250+ it may be a bit tricky keeping any car on the ground.

                            I'd also like to add that I don't think 400kph (~248.5mph) would be that tough for a properly geared F1 car.
                            It's impossible, that's sure. So let's start working.- Phillipe Petit

                            Talent borrows, Genius steals. - Pablo Picasso

                            Ah, there's nothing more exciting than science. You get all the fun of sitting still, being quiet, writing down numbers, paying attention... Science has it all.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bombardier R142
                              At 250+ it may be a bit tricky keeping any car on the ground.
                              It would be generating well over 2000lbs of downforce at that speed, even trimmed out.

                              The point of this BAR deal was that the car was in race legal spec, so saying you should "turn the boost up" or whatever on an Indycar is irrelevant, because that would not be in race trim. Pre-IRL, it would have been legal to take off the rear wing, so that would have been an option. The best an Indycar could do would probably be the pushrod Merc Penske with no wing. It would still be in the same ballpark as the BAR though- more power, but more drag too.

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