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  • Foyt... Mears... Unser... Rutherford... Wheldon?

    http://www.racingone.com/article.asp?artnum=25216
    "I didn't hear a single comment about airboxes, "carbashians", or how terrible the car looked. I did see dozens and dozens of little kids in awe of the speed and how cool the cars looked. We should learn from our children."
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  • #2
    Let's give him a few more years before making those comparisons. He's good, but not yet great.
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    • #3
      Wheldon may have a thing about shoes, but even he would admit that his dogs have to grow a BUNCH to fit the aforementioned shoes.
      ...---...

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      • #4
        People were comparing Sam to Mears before Sam even won the championship. San still hasn't won the 500, so I think by comparing results Dan is probably closer to being a Mears.............though I really like Sam.
        "Is that my *** that I smell burning?" ... Helmet Stogie from "Death spasms of the Mabuchi"

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        • #5
          Do you suppose Sam puts too much pressure on himself to win the 500 just like Tony Stewart did to win the Brickyard? Seems to me that Sam gets wound too tightly during the Month of May.

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          • #6
            Not exactly bold talk from someone who works directly with him with such a hand in his success. The fact is anyone active 'could' move into that category with a bunch of victories, it's getting the wins that keeps the list short. To the grain of salt add in the rumors of DW leaving AGR, 'hey say something really complimentary about Dan so he wants to stay with us.' Or if he leaves will Eddie Jones say the same things a year from now.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by treadlightly
              Do you suppose Sam puts too much pressure on himself to win the 500 just like Tony Stewart did to win the Brickyard? Seems to me that Sam gets wound too tightly during the Month of May.
              His pit misque last year would suggest that, but this year he was biding his time and got stuffed by someone who wasn't. I wouldn't bet against him tying or breaking Mear's record at the speedway. I think Wheldon will be gone before he wins too many more 500s, but I'de like to be wrong about that.
              "Is that my *** that I smell burning?" ... Helmet Stogie from "Death spasms of the Mabuchi"

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              • #8
                I think that Dan Wheldon is a very talented driver and deserves both his Indy 500 win and the Indy car title but I would say that Sam Hornish has a bigger potential to join Mears, Foyt, Rutherford and the other greats. The moves he can pull off and his driving style in general are much more agressive and daring than those of Wheldon. I might be mistaken but in my opinion Hornish is a better driver. He just needs to pull himself together and have some luck at Indy next year.
                "Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone is life" Sid Collins

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Doc Austin
                  His pit misque last year would suggest that, but this year he was biding his time and got stuffed by someone who wasn't. I wouldn't bet against him tying or breaking Mear's record at the speedway. I think Wheldon will be gone before he wins too many more 500s, but I'de like to be wrong about that.
                  Treadlightly is correct and so are you.

                  Sam's day will come at INDY and the Grand Lady will reward him handsomely.

                  If he becomes the next 4 time winner, I would not at all be surprised...Tho it may take the next 5 years for that!
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                  • #10
                    Personally, I always thought Wheldon reminded me of Jim Clark, but I don't mind the other comparisons either
                    "I love Indianapolis. I love the people. I love everything about it....the tradition, the history." - Dan Wheldon

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                    • #11
                      As soon as Weldon wins on Dirt we can talk.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by brickyard1911
                        As soon as Weldon wins on Dirt we can talk.
                        I guess the same would go for Sam Hornish Jr.
                        "Ninety-two years ago [the Indy 500] was probably like any other race," said 2005 winner Dan Wheldon. "But over time it's just created so many storylines and history for people of our generation that now it's just massive. People value that history and tradition and you just can't take that away."

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                        • #13
                          If those past winners were dead, they would all roll over in their graves. Give me a break. What has Weldon really proven? That given a team with the most financial backing, a car with the most horsepower, and three teammates to run blocking for him, he can win races. Sorry: he's not even close to Unser, Foyt, Mears, or Rutherford. And I doubt he ever will be. Has he won in inferior cars? Has he ever started at the rear in some other driver's car and won the race anyway? Has he won on dirt? How about stock cars? With the engines in front as well as rear? Has re came back from serious injury to win championships? He has a long way to go to be favorably compared with these past great drivers. JMHO.

                          Don't get me wrong. I give great credit to anyone who has won the Indy 500. Just don't go overboard in your comparisons.
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                          • #14
                            Put him on another team other than AGR, with their punchy engines and then see what happens. If he continues to dominate then I'll be convinced, otherwise, I don't see him as anything other than a talented driver lucky enough to get on a team with vastly superior motors and masses of $$ to spend on preparation than the other guys. I'm sure there are a few other guys who could've met or exceded Wheldons record this year if they'd have been on the same team.
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