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  • #2
    So if JJ ran here, he would be behind Kellett?
    Rest in peace, Dan Wheldon 1978 - 2011

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    • #3
      Originally posted by raskav View Post
      So if JJ ran here, he would be behind Kellett?
      I think I could match Kellett with my Chrysler 200.

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      • #4
        Barber is pretty hard course to master. Lots of blind turns and elevation change that doesn't really show up on TV
        Rest in peace, Dan Wheldon 1978 - 2011

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        • #5
          Bourdais second quick.
          Kellett 9th (ahead of Jones, Sato, & Grosjean)...fwiw.
          https://racer.com/2021/02/23/veekay-...fNgDVvqex_YtX4
          “With the help of God and true friends, I come to realize
          I still got two strong legs, even wings to fly
          I ain’t wastin’ time no more...”

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          • #6
            Pointless to compare times, we have no idea what tires/fuel load/down force they had on said car during that lap.
            "If your car was a dog, then you had to figure it out and test your own limits. And we didn't go to a wind tunnel – we did it in the first turn at Indianapolis."

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            • #7
              Hence the fwiw.
              😉
              “With the help of God and true friends, I come to realize
              I still got two strong legs, even wings to fly
              I ain’t wastin’ time no more...”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by raskav View Post
                Barber is pretty hard course to master. Lots of blind turns and elevation change that doesn't really show up on TV
                Turns 14/15/16 into 17 are very hard. Get it wrong - which is easy - and it kills your speed onto the front straight.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jim Wilke View Post

                  Turns 14/15/16 into 17 are very hard. Get it wrong - which is easy - and it kills your speed onto the front straight.
                  I was supposed to race there in a ChampCar race two years ago, but work got in the way.

                  Done many races there on iRacing and Jim, you are spot on. It takes a bit to learn how to do the 14/15/16 to 17 and get it right with the right transitions. One of those turns that separates talent. Trying harder makes it works. Going conservative to be safe results in being slow on the straight.

                  F2000, stock cars, Indycars - all has to be balanced.
                  And don't forget the heat!

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                  • #10
                    I saw a post showing the timing board from later in the day, Kellett was into the 108's
                    "He went into a tire barrier, which is certainly the nicest of all the barriers." -Bobby Unser, Denver '90

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Openracer View Post

                      I was supposed to race there in a ChampCar race two years ago, but work got in the way.

                      Done many races there on iRacing and Jim, you are spot on. It takes a bit to learn how to do the 14/15/16 to 17 and get it right with the right transitions. One of those turns that separates talent. Trying harder makes it works. Going conservative to be safe results in being slow on the straight.

                      F2000, stock cars, Indycars - all has to be balanced.
                      Coming into 14 isn't bad but it is hard to find the line and the next thing you know, you are too wide in 15 and trying to herd the car over to the inside while scrubbing off speed. Then you're just wandering around with no clear idea of what the hell you're supposed to doing. Come onto the straight in little more than an idle...

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                      • #12
                        https://racer.com/2021/02/23/veekay-...sting-resumes/

                        (All times unofficial)

                        Rinus VeeKay, No. 21 Ed Carpenter Racing Chevy (66.518s)
                        Sebastien Bourdais, No. 14 A.J. Foyt Racing Chevy (66.633s)
                        Graham Rahal, No. 15 Rahal Letterman Lanigan Honda (66.721s)
                        Will Power, No. 12 Team Penske Chevy (66.902s)
                        Conor Daly, No. 20 Ed Carpenter Racing Chevy (67.021s)
                        Josef Newgarden, No. 2 Team Penske Chevy (67.040s)
                        Scott McLaughlin, No. 3 Team Penske Chevy (67.065s)
                        Simon Pagenaud, No. 22 Team Penske Chevy (67.166s)
                        Dalton Kellett, No. 4 A.J. Foyt Racing Chevy (67.239s)
                        Ed Jones, No. 18 Dale Coyne Racing with Vasser Sullivan Honda (67.388s)
                        Takuma Sato, No. 30 Rahal Letterman Lanigan Honda (67.449s)
                        Romain Grosjean, No. 51 Dale Coyne Racing with Rick Ware Racing Honda (67.478s)

                        Scott McLaughlin appears to be adapting well.
                        Less than 1 second covers the 11 cars.
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                        • #13
                          Even the pros make mistakes. Graham Rahal turns in early at 17 at 0:09.

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