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  • TMoney
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    Bring back Pork Chop!

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  • Sweaty Teddy
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    Originally posted by Mearsfan53081 View Post
    What you're doing here is comparing a street car....to a top fuel funny car.

    Thats like comparing a go kart....to an Indycar. I guess you can roll with that.
    Me or Spike?

    Because I'm talking about barrier to entry into the sport, not barrier to entry into Top Fuel. There is a reason drag racing is #1 in terms of participation. And the low barrier to entry compared to other motorsports, combined with the fact that women have been permitted to compete in drag racing for decades more than other forms of racing means that there are more women participating the lower levels, more have made it to the top levels, and have won races and won championships.

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  • Mearsfan53081
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    What you're doing here is comparing a street car....to a top fuel funny car.

    Thats like comparing a go kart....to an Indycar. I guess you can roll with that.

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  • Sweaty Teddy
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    Originally posted by Spike View Post
    If you are going to be that elemental about it you could say the same about every other form of racing.
    But not really.

    For drag racing you can take your street car - whatever it is, go to your local track, and as long as it passes a very basic tech inspection (as in, is it not leaking fluids, the wheels securely fastened to the car, as is the battery) you can compete. If your car is slow enough, you don't need a helmet or any safety gear beyond long pants and closed-toe shoe . You don't even need to attend a safety briefing or a driver's meeting, and you don't have to work a flagging station or chase cones. Yes, the quicker and faster you go the more rules there are and the more involved it becomes, but the biggest barrier to entry is your distance from a track.

    Name a type of auto racing that has a lower barrier to entry.

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  • Spike
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    Originally posted by Sweaty Teddy View Post
    The barriers to entry are also a lot lower in drag racing, where you only need the following:

    1. A car
    2. A track

    to compete.
    If you are going to be that elemental about it you could say the same about every other form of racing.

    Originally posted by Sweaty Teddy View Post
    Yes there is a little bit more involved, but not really.
    Yes, really.


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  • Sweaty Teddy
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    Originally posted by fullchat View Post

    Ask Graham Rahal about his sister-in-law. Then work your way backward to Shirley Muldowney.
    And even earlier. Drag racing has more competitive women now because women have been competing since the 60s. The barriers to entry are also a lot lower in drag racing, where you only need the following:

    1. A car
    2. A track

    to compete. Yes there is a little bit more involved, but not really.

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  • Elusive1
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    Great post Grizz. Thanks for recalling what really happened back then. Hope Simona does come back in 2020.

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  • Openracer
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    Originally posted by neti1 View Post
    YES PLEASE!!!!!

    I imagine Porkchop is probably scrap by now.

    Even if not, there might be a little trouble with homologation .
    Porkchop was at least up to two years ago, owned as a roller by someone near Watkins Glen and not a racer. How he ended up with it, I have no idea and don't know the guy. Had it for sale on craigslist locally! Don't know what happened to it.

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  • fenderless
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    Originally posted by CLUB 33 View Post

    A hell of a lot more than TF darlings Sarah Fisher and Pippa Mann, and even Princess Perm-a-pout.
    Not exactly a high bar, is it? Hey- If she gets a ride I wish her well.

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  • BretEarl
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    I am sure Penske bought the series so Simona could be put back in to increase ratings and attendance.

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  • CLUB 33
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    Originally posted by fenderless View Post
    What did either of these ladies accomplish (other than their participation). I watched Katherine Legge in Cleveland hit the same damn hole three times in a row, the third time broke the suspension. So she survived a high speed crash.
    A hell of a lot more than TF darlings Sarah Fisher and Pippa Mann, and even Princess Perm-a-pout.

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  • fullchat
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    Originally posted by neti1 View Post

    There's never been a genuinely competitive female driver in a major league racing series.
    Ask Graham Rahal about his sister-in-law. Then work your way backward to Shirley Muldowney.

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  • The Stickman
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    Originally posted by happyscrappy-t View Post
    Second Shank car for Indy only deal would be my guess for the rumor.
    Just what I was thinking

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  • neti1
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    Originally posted by Grizzlor View Post
    Simona was quite competitive when she finally got a decent team (and engine) in 2013 with KV, finished 2nd at Houston. Oh by the way, that was a pre-Bourdais KV as well, she was teamed and frequently outran on road courses with Tony Kanaan. Then the buffoon she has for a manager pulled her out of the series. She was hands-down the best female single seat driver on road courses I've seen yet.
    She was also running strong at Brazil in the wet until Danica rammed her under yellow. She spent 24 laps in the pits, but when she came out again she was the fastest driver on track. I've always wondered what she could have done that day, had DP not ruined her race.


    Originally posted by rrrr View Post

    This illustrates the general issue I have with drivers and teams subsidized by IMS, and female drivers in particular. "Hav[ing] one" is deemed more important than skill level. Should Penske also purchase drivers of certain race, ethnicity, or physical attributes for publicity?

    Of course, there are several drivers in IndyCar that are there because of the money they bring, but that's a different discussion.

    I suppose some people see value in having a female driver in a pink car because she pats children on the head, signs autographs, and advances a social construct. Me, not so much.
    There's never been a genuinely competitive female driver in a major league racing series. Which means a woman who could consistently run up front could be a huge draw. I don't know if Simona could accomplish that, but of all the women who've run in IndyCar, she's the mostly likely candidate.

    Plus, it just feels good to see more diversity (provided the driver is competent).

    Simona was a big fan favorite (partly due to gender , partly to her very likable attitude and persona) - as can be seen by the number of posters excited by the possibility, So having her in a car would probably boost attendance/ratings.

    PS: since Lewis Hamilton seems on course to become the most successful driver in F1 history, I think the minority angle has already been well covered.

    Originally posted by Tree0404 View Post
    Simona splitting with Ed makes sense.

    A full-time Simona ride doesn't make a ton of sense. Ovals are not her forte. One career top 10 finish. Four career lead-lap finishes - three at Indy - where if you are still running, its hard NOT to be on the lead lap.
    I assume you mean 1 career top-10 finish on an oval ...

    She has a 2nd, a 4th, a 6th and I think more top-10 finishes on RCs.

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  • neti1
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    Originally posted by damilt View Post
    Pruett says one Indycar team looking at her
    YES PLEASE!!!!!

    Originally posted by frodo13 View Post
    Would love to see Simona and Porky back in the fold!!!
    I imagine Porkchop is probably scrap by now.

    Even if not, there might be a little trouble with homologation .

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