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  • I don't blame Scheckter

    This is just my opinion folks, so don't start flaming me...I can't say that I blame Tomas one bit for leaving Red Bull Cheever Racing. Eddie has to be horrible to work for, and it's no secret that he can't stand being shown up week in and week out by a younger driver. I just hope that someone grabs Tomas quick so that his career can blossom into the champion that he should be. He was never going to get that championship with Eddie's team b/c IMO Eddie is not the kind of instructor that young Tomas needs. They are two hard headed guys that obviously didn't see eye to eye from day one. Good luck Tomas!

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    You are entitled to your opinion. I, for one, and most others would seem to be in disagreement. You may be right about two "hard headed" guys, but who's the boss here???????
    "IRL is better at everything except selling themselves." -- Jennifer Floyd Engel, ESPN/103.3 FM

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    • #3
      I do.

      jmart

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      • #4
        Originally posted by UnserJrFan:
        <STRONG>This is just my opinion folks, so don't start flaming me...I can't say that I blame Tomas one bit for leaving Red Bull Cheever Racing. Eddie has to be horrible to work for, and it's no secret that he can't stand being shown up week in and week out by a younger driver. I just hope that someone grabs Tomas quick so that his career can blossom into the champion that he should be. He was never going to get that championship with Eddie's team b/c IMO Eddie is not the kind of instructor that young Tomas needs. They are two hard headed guys that obviously didn't see eye to eye from day one. Good luck Tomas!</STRONG>
        At first, EC seemed darned proud that the youngster was whipping him. This is, until he started crashing into the boss (and everybody else).
        Gary Crossno

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        • #5
          If asked to form a line to apply for a ride with "horrible" Cheever, it would be long and patient.

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          • #6
            This is not a return flame, but I disagree with EC being upset about being beat by his "protege". He has been quite candid, as always, about actually being pleased how well TS did, when he outraced him. He, of course, was quite candid when TS did not do so well either. I think that is just EC being EC. Love him or hate him, he gave TS more opportunities than alot of other owners may have.
            "Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children." Ancient Indian Proverb :)

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            • #7
              Eddie should haved been a man and called Tomas a month ago to discuss their situation like men, and maybe, just maybe they could have had a long great racing relationship.

              Some things have come to light that makes me think their is more to this story before I go and crucify Tomas,

              Or Eddie.

              Rev, Just what does that user agreement say about comments towards drivers or is it just your (TF's) favorite drivers.
              Natural Born Cynic

              What irks me (maybe its too soon for the truth), DW was a 16-oval WIN specialist, yet the vast majority those boohooing for him, hardcarders & fans, alike are the same ones trying to kill anything with more than 9 deg banking & 4 corners, where Dan ultimately made his home...

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              • #8
                I agree that Tomas's crashing race cars, made Eddie cranky, because you see, HE'S THE BOSS!!
                Have a very blessed day!

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                • #9
                  You know, 7 crashed cars, hundreds of thousands of dollars lost in repairs, lost prize money, sponsor opportunities, etc. might just make anybody cranky, especially the guy that owns the team.

                  Add on top of that the guy crashing them has an attitude, well....

                  Tell you what, have your teenage daughter or son crash the family car seven times in one year, once into the other family car, and tell you where to go in the process and you might get a little cranky too.
                  "For in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's future, and we are all mortal".

                  John Kennedy at American University 1963

                  "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power"

                  A. Lincoln

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                  • #10
                    How long would Tomas last with Foyt after the multitude of crashes.

                    I think Eddie has been a most patient car owner.

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                    • #11
                      Reminder folks:

                      Cheever gave Thomas his own crew chief (Owen Snyder).... probably one of the best in the business. Probably sacrificing his own season in the process.

                      I doubt anyone could say that Eddie didn't do everything he could to make the youngster successful.

                      (and before anyone says yes.... but he took Snyder away too... who did he give.... Greg Beck... not too shabby either)

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                      • #12
                        I don't blame Tomas either, I think he is a brilliant driver. I have heard a lot of the experts say that it is better to have a young driver that goes fast and crashes a bit too often than a driver that doesn't go fast and never crashes. I guess because it is easier to slow a driver down than to speed him up.

                        I think the essence of the problem is that Cheever is too cheap to buy insurance and as a result has to absorb the costs when a crash occurrs. It doesn't make sense to hire a young fast driver who has no oval experience and then not carry insurance. I say Cheever is to blame, and time will tell as Tomas will likely get a ride elsewhere.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by UnserJrFan:
                          <STRONG>This is just my opinion folks, so don't start flaming me...I can't say that I blame Tomas one bit for leaving Red Bull Cheever Racing. Eddie has to be horrible to work for, </STRONG>
                          The only Tomas 'partial' quote I've seen is where he cites 'safety concerns'. I don't see where this fact of hos reason for leaving fits into your explaination.

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                          • #14
                            Boy If i was a driver and my teammate slash team owner gave me his two time indy 500 winning crew chief to do my car, I think Id be pretty humble and honored.


                            Tomas has been a cocky bozo since day one.


                            Truth fact, but to defend the guy is

                            "absolute lunacy"

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                            • #15
                              He hasn't LEFT, he's just NOT RACING this weekend. For all we know a fmamily member died and he doesnt want to share.

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