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    Hello all,

    New member here, making my very first post. Actually, I’m a fairly new fan to racing in general as before this year I’ve only watched a handful of Indy 500’s. I don’t even own a car. To which, my screen-name (the trains used by NYC for the Lex. Ave line) is a tribute to a major corporate sponsor of the IRL and its product, of which I am a satisfied customer. As a mater of fact, I didn't start watching racing this year until the Indy 500. But I’ve been watching different kinds of racing since then, including NASCAR, Indy, CART, F1 and even some Sprint Racing. Out of all of them, Indy Racing is my favorite. So, I’ve been biding my time, learning what I can, getting a few first impressions and trying to come up with an appropriate screen name while waiting for the season to end before making my first post, which as I look back on it seems a tad long (the post, not the season), but it’ll do.

    A couple of first impressions:

    The IRL has a great formula of exciting, high-speed racing. I e-mailed the video clip of the end of the Chicago race to pretty much everybody I knew. Hopefully, it’ll convert a few more stick-and-ball/puck fans. The IRL seems like it’s on the right track as far as the racing itself goes, plus it’s got the Indy 500 and nobody else can say that. But, they’re going to have to make major changes in how it presents itself if it wants to succeed on a national level.

    First of all, Disney’s IRL coverage is inexcusably terrible. Why in the world is the pre-race show 1 hour before the race and on a different network? Paul Page is OK, although network TV sports coverage should be better than just OK. The studio host (who’s name escapes me) can talk about 220mph-wheel-to-wheel-racing and make it sound boring, which is impressive. Scott Goodyear is useless. He has no idea of how to convey complex technical information in a manner understandable to laypeople or give me a greater understanding of race strategy. I’ve actually learned more about Indy racing from the PS2 game than I have from him. NASCAR coverage is so much better. I remember a description of “Vapor Lock” during the Sharpie 500 that led me to shake my head and ask “Why can’t I get a straight answer like that from the IRL crew?”

    Speaking of NASCAR coverage, steal that “Behind the Leader” thing NASCAR coverage does. It’s a great idea for 2 reasons. 1. Sometimes the best racing goes on behind the leader and you don’t want to neglect reporting on it (but I don’t have to tell trackforum that ). 2. It gives exposure to sponsors of teams besides those who are running at the front. Right now, the only way for the sponsor of the 12th place car can get on TV is by starting 20th and that’s just bad for the IRL in general. Struggling teams need the most support.

    Secondly, The IRL and its sponsors need to market the drivers MUCH better if they want to grow an audience. People are more likely to watch if they recognize the names of the drivers in the race. Living in NYC, I see NASCAR drivers hawking all sorts of products on non-racing TV and NASCAR ratings are actually getting respectable here. The only IRL figure I see on non-racing TV who is identified by name is Michael Andretti for Honda and he’s not a driver anymore. I've heard people on this forum lament the lack of recognizable drivers like Indy had in the past. While we should embrace Indy’s storied past, the IRL can only succeed by marketing the drivers they have now. I’ve never seen a Pennzoil ad with Sam Hornish Jr. and that’s just not right. I should be sick of that ad by now. Now that he’s with Penske, it’s not going to get any better as he’s obviously not going be in a national ad campaign for Marlboro. This hurts both him and the IRL as far as national exposure goes.

    I’d also like to add that it’s ironic that some of the same people in the media who ignored the closest 1-3 finish and then the fastest race in history can’t show the Brack crash enough, but act like it’s the IRL fans that only want to see a wreck. Sad

    Lastly, the way I figure it, I’ve got 2 choices if I want to go to an IRL race next season. Miami or Nazareth. My parents live in South Florida (because, as Jerry Seinfeld says, “they’re old, and that’s the law”) so I have a free place to stay and Nazareth is relatively close. So, which one is better for a first timer?

    No sig yet, but I heard a quote from John Force about turning left on Windtunnel the other day that’s in the running.
    It's impossible, that's sure. So let's start working.- Phillipe Petit

    Talent borrows, Genius steals. - Pablo Picasso

    Ah, there's nothing more exciting than science. You get all the fun of sitting still, being quiet, writing down numbers, paying attention... Science has it all.

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    Save your money and go to either Chicago ot Texas.
    aXe
    Born Again Race Fan seen at
    www.openwheelracers3.com

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    • #3
      Good first post and lots of truth. Welcome aboard.
      Last edited by stan; 10-19-2003, 11:11 AM.
      sa

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      • #4
        Welcome! Enjoy the forum. We have a very diverse group as members and you'll soon learn who everyone is.

        I'm a nice guy. I just can't seem to convince anyone else.
        Proud to be a complainer.

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        • #5
          Welcome aboard, Bombardier R142. Always room for one more.

          Nice first post. You must come to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway sometime, at least to see your new pagoda.

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          • #6
            Re: New racing fan's first post

            Originally posted by Bombardier R142
            I’d also like to add that it’s ironic that some of the same people in the media who ignored the closest 1-3 finish and then the fastest race in history can’t show the Brack crash enough, but act like it’s the IRL fans that only want to see a wreck. Sad
            Insight! Yes! Thank you... and welcome aboard...
            "Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone, is life"
            ~ Sanskrit poem attributed to Kalidasa, "Salutation to the Dawn"


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            • #7
              Re: New racing fan's first post

              Originally posted by Bombardier R142
              I’ve never seen a Pennzoil ad with Sam Hornish Jr. and that’s just not right. I should be sick of that ad by now.
              Exactly right !
              "Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone, is life"
              ~ Sanskrit poem attributed to Kalidasa, "Salutation to the Dawn"


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              • #8
                Welcome to TF. I've never been to either Homestead or Naz so I can't help you there. It will be interesting to see how the racing is at Homestead with the new banking.
                IRL, Champcar and F1 fan

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                • #9
                  Yes, welcome, and I agree with grogg, you MUST experience the Indianapolis 500 first!
                  Have a very blessed day!

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                  • #10
                    Wow, what a first post! Sounds like this is a "Scott Dixon" like rookie!

                    Welcome to TF!
                    http://brianswish.trackforum.com/brianswish_main.htm/

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                    • #11
                      Let me continue the welcomes and great first post, you're going to have a lot to live up to after that.

                      If you need information on anything around the Nazareth area shoot me a PM or email, I live in the area and will offer some free (about what it is worth) advice on the area if go that route.

                      Is it May yet ?

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                      • #12
                        Looks like we have a poster shooting for Rookie of the Year!

                        Welcome Bomb! Keep making sense and you'll develop a following.

                        Oh, and aXe is right. Do the Chicago, Texas or maybe Michigan if you can't reach Indianapolis.
                        "If TF members were given solid gold cars, some would complain about the color." - stnkypete

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                        • #13
                          We need lots more fans in the Northeast. Welcome aboard and thanks for spreading the word.
                          Supporting Indy Car racing since 1959

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                          • #14
                            Welcome Bombardier R142! Can I call you BR142 for short? Why the heck did you wait until the off season to start posting?

                            Is it May yet?
                            "But another icy Indiana winter will come and go and before we know it, springtime returns and it will be May and the roar of engines will once again breathe life into the lazy Hoosier sky and bring us back together." -- Sid Collins

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                            • #15
                              New Jersey Turnpike Exit 5 here.

                              A Rangers fan trapped in Flyers country.

                              Go to Nazareth. Not the best track in the world to watch at, but its a nice ride out there and its not too far for ya.

                              Actually given a choice, Indy would be a good first ever race to see live. Richmond is a good track to visit too. Lots to do in the area to make a good weekend out of it.

                              Too late this year, but theres some good racing in NJ too.

                              Email me anytime Theres a few tracks within reasonable distance from NYC that run weekly.
                              Live like Dave

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