To those who believe there's no skill involved to drive a road/street-course race, or that's it's easy spend an hour and watch this video. Granted it's not an IndyCar but the overall effect is very similar to an IndyCar. Watch his hand & head movement, listen to the acceleration & braking, watch the car twitching & sliding through the corners always 'on-the-edge' and the driver control required.
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Last edited by indyracefan; 01-20-2011, 11:45 AM.a bad day at the race track beats a good day at workTags: None
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Who has ever said there's no skill in road and street courses? I've heard many similar statements about ovals, but the skill set involved in R/S racing seems to be pretty much agreed upon.It's impossible, that's sure. So let's start working.- Phillipe Petit
Talent borrows, Genius steals. - Pablo Picasso
Ah, there's nothing more exciting than science. You get all the fun of sitting still, being quiet, writing down numbers, paying attention... Science has it all.
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Originally posted by indyracefan View PostWatch his hand & head movement, listen to the acceleration & braking, watch the car twitching & sliding through the corners always 'on-the-edge' and the driver control required."George Bignotti's Sinmast Wildcat (Designed by Bob Riley); delicately built, carefully prepared and boldly driven by Gordon Johncock." -- Keith Jackson
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Only skilled trace track is a dirt ovalWe want to relate to Americana. I went to the Indy 500 and that was Americana. I sat in various turns and I didn’t see any champagne drinkers, but I saw a lot of beer drinkers. We appeal to the wine and cheese crowd, but we also appeal to the masses – the beer drinkers.” Randy Bernard
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Originally posted by SnakePitLounge View PostOnly skilled trace track is a dirt oval
That aside, is it the track that has the skill, or the driver?"I would really like to go to NASCAR. I really enjoy NASCAR and if I could be there in a couple of years that's where I'd want to be." - Jeff Gordon (after testing a Formula Super Vee)
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Originally posted by mdkiel View PostNot to mention the dexterity needed to pull off a well executed fist-bump!
Never underestimate the impact of the coolness factor."I would really like to go to NASCAR. I really enjoy NASCAR and if I could be there in a couple of years that's where I'd want to be." - Jeff Gordon (after testing a Formula Super Vee)
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Great video. I agree the premise of the string is a bit lame but there is one telling item related to skill. This car had a manual transmission!
I know that the paddle shift transmission is faster but the need to clutch, brake, accelerate and shift in unison is a skill that is missed in all OW racing as far as I am concerned. Paddles are convenient and fun and fast, but the more things the driver has to do the more opportunities for small mistakes turning into big passes. F1 is and wants to be the pinnacle of all racing technology. I am fine with that. I would like IndyCar to mandate manual transmissions. Is it lower tech, yes. Is it better racing from viewer standpoint and for driver challenges, I again say yes. In know it will never happen but a man can wish.You can be a critical fan without being a Critic... Or can you? Quit your b'tchn and enjoy the racing :D
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Originally posted by JMFVET View PostGreat video. I agree the premise of the string is a bit lame but there is one telling item related to skill. This car had a manual transmission!"I would really like to go to NASCAR. I really enjoy NASCAR and if I could be there in a couple of years that's where I'd want to be." - Jeff Gordon (after testing a Formula Super Vee)
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the only difference with the operation of the two transmissions - IndyCar and Atlantic - is using the paddles to shift vs. using the stick. It might cause a bit more trouble to have to take the right hand off the wheel to shift, but not much. Otherwise I believe it's the same clutchless no-lift shift.
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Originally posted by vintage View Postthe only difference with the operation of the two transmissions - IndyCar and Atlantic - is using the paddles to shift vs. using the stick. It might cause a bit more trouble to have to take the right hand off the wheel to shift, but not much. Otherwise I believe it's the same clutchless no-lift shift.You can be a critical fan without being a Critic... Or can you? Quit your b'tchn and enjoy the racing :D
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Don't forget that even in a "conventional manual" (a straight-cut, non-synchro, dog ring gearbox - like a Hewland, or Staffs, or whatever) you don't use the clutch once you are rolling. You still lift off the throttle ever-so-slightly on upshifts and match revs on downshifts but you don't touch the clutch pedal."I would really like to go to NASCAR. I really enjoy NASCAR and if I could be there in a couple of years that's where I'd want to be." - Jeff Gordon (after testing a Formula Super Vee)
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