Parade... meet rain.

[Joonyah]

Congratulations on your 187th post...it's really a lame one. Are we to assume you like road and street courses, and are therefore more knowledgeable and sophisticated than those that prefer oval racing? Perhaps you believe those in the nonurban or southern areas of our country are less intelligent than you? Are you unable to express an opinion without insulting people that may not agree with you?

Congratulations on your 11,056th post... it's really a lame one. Are we to assume you like ovals, and are therefore more knowledgeable and sophisticated than those that prefer road/street racing? Perhaps you believe those in the urban or western areas of our country are less intelligent than you? Are you unable to express an opinion without insulting people that may not agree with you?

[No_Fenders]

Congratulations on your 187th post...it's really a lame one. Are we to assume you like road and street courses, and are therefore more knowledgeable and sophisticated than those that prefer oval racing? Perhaps you believe those in the nonurban or southern areas of our country are less intelligent than you? Are you unable to express an opinion without insulting people that may not agree with you?

Oooh Oooh - owned by post count! Whatever.

Funny, I didnt see anywhere in his "lame" post about non-urban or southern areas. Who is insulting who?

[Crash]

The thread title is funny to me. I mean, who doesn't love it when it rains on a street race?

[Mr. Bean]

I love street races. (puts in mouth piece and straps on boxing gloves)

[skypigeon]

Congratulations on your 11,056th post... it's really a lame one. Are we to assume you like ovals, and are therefore more knowledgeable and sophisticated than those that prefer road/street racing? Perhaps you believe those in the urban or western areas of our country are less intelligent than you? Are you unable to express an opinion without insulting people that may not agree with you?

Congratulations on your 1,473rd post...

(Oh, incidentally, for those who may wonder, Joonyah is displaying something called "humor." "Humor" is a useful tool when blasting a viewpoint one finds ridiculous out of the sky on an Internet discussion board, such as this one. It makes one look more like a friend and less like an ass. We've all been asses enough on this subject especially; can we be friends now and simply move on?)

[PHJIndy]

:fishingth

Yep!

[INDYINDY]

Damn, that was good. A couple of things to note:

First, Herta's tires were toast, so he was definitely holding those guys up. He really wasn't going to keep them behind him without putting them in the wall. Hmmmmm, tires...

Secondly, these were awesomely powerful turbocharged beasts, not overly winged rev-limited pigs. Let's hope Randy and Co. know the difference.

Thirdly, no gimmicks. No freaking push to pass. Just raw horsepower and guts.

This is what Indy Car should look like on a road course.

[Joonyah]

Congratulations on your 1,473rd post...

(Oh, incidentally, for those who may wonder, Joonyah is displaying something called "humor." "Humor" is a useful tool when blasting a viewpoint one finds ridiculous out of the sky on an Internet discussion board, such as this one. It makes one look more like a friend and less like an ass. We've all been asses enough on this subject especially; can we be friends now and simply move on?)

I shall echo your sentiments by saying that if we meet up somewhere, I will buy you a beer.

[whburney]

Dooooooooooooooooommmmmmmeeeeeedddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Didn't they cancel this project? Issues with venting the exhaust from cars in an indoor track?

Still, would be nice in rainy areas.

[mdkiel]

This is what Indy Car should look like on a road course.

Well thank you. Before this I had no idea.

[The Stickman]

Damn, that was good. A couple of things to note:

First, Herta's tires were toast, so he was definitely holding those guys up. He really wasn't going to keep them behind him without putting them in the wall. Hmmmmm, tires...

Secondly, these were awesomely powerful turbocharged beasts, not overly winged rev-limited pigs. Let's hope Randy and Co. know the difference.

Thirdly, no gimmicks. No freaking push to pass. Just raw horsepower and guts.

This is what Indy Car should look like on a road course.

Actually if you listen to what the ex CC guys say the Dallara has less downforce than what they were driving.

[Turn13]

Actually if you listen to what the ex CC guys say the Dallara has less downforce than what they were driving.

I believe that is correct... hoop-98 may correct me on this, but I believe the downforce / horspower ratios are close to what they were in '92 - '93 in CART, with their multiple engine and chassis combinations.

Seems to me that F1 made a positive change recently by reducing wing-induced DF in favor of DF generated by the undertray - the smaller rear wings and larger front ones seem to have increased passing and even created some side-by-side scenarios. Of course the fans hated the look at first

[downtowndeco]

Great finish & racing, can't (and wouldn't) deny it. But it's easy to pull up a couple of bits of old video from any series and make it look exciting. But for every street race like your example there were another 10 that were just plain follow the leader fuel mileage affairs. And the same can be said about oval and road course racing, CART, CCWS or Indycar.

We always tend to look back and remember the great stuff and forget the boring stuff. Not every CART race from 1998 was this exciting. I guess what I'm getting at is we set ourselves up to be continually dissapointed when we unrealistically look back nostalgically. Sometimes the "Good old days" weren't always quite as good as we remember them.

Damn, that was good. A couple of things to note:

First, Herta's tires were toast, so he was definitely holding those guys up. He really wasn't going to keep them behind him without putting them in the wall. Hmmmmm, tires...

Secondly, these were awesomely powerful turbocharged beasts, not overly winged rev-limited pigs. Let's hope Randy and Co. know the difference.

Thirdly, no gimmicks. No freaking push to pass. Just raw horsepower and guts.

This is what Indy Car should look like on a road course.

[mdkiel]

Great finish & racing, can't (and wouldn't) deny it. But it's easy to pull up a couple of bits of old video from any series and make it look exciting. But for every street race like your example there were another 10 that were just plain follow the leader fuel mileage affairs. And the same can be said about oval and road course racing, CART, CCWS or Indycar.

Yup. I can still hear Paul Page's voice coming back from 3 straight commercial breaks saying, "Nothing has changed in the fight since we left you."

[INDYINDY]

Well thank you. Before this I had no idea.

Sorry, I didn't mean to be Mr. Obvious. I just got excited about the video.