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  • Is this too exotic for IRL's new car in 2010?

    Teaser video
    http://www.vimeo.com/761135/

    Chassis built by Panoz
    Engine built by Menard Competition Technologies

    (More than ironic that these two American companies are powering Superleague while IRL runs Italian chassis powered by Japanese car maker)

    4.2 litre, V-12, 750 HP, 11,750 RPM (from wikipedia)

    Rest in peace, Dan Wheldon 1978 - 2011

  • #2
    It's definitely a nice car and is quick. But it is used by the superleague. American open wheel needs to be unique. However, something similar to this would be nice.
    Nice to see a naturally aspirated car without an ugly camel hump though.

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    • #3
      Looks pretty neat, but I'll bet them fancy wings freak some people out if they did something like this

      I think safety should be the biggest concern with any wholesale changes.
      "Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone, is life"
      ~ Sanskrit poem attributed to Kalidasa, "Salutation to the Dawn"


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      • #4
        Originally posted by VonScratch
        It's definitely a nice car and is quick. But it is used by the superleague. American open wheel needs to be unique. However, something similar to this would be nice.
        Nice to see a naturally aspirated car without an ugly camel hump though.
        It would have to be modified to be oval ready.
        But something like this show that IRL doesn't have to accept ugly looking car with horrible engine sound.
        Rest in peace, Dan Wheldon 1978 - 2011

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        • #5
          It's a DP01 with an airbox and some funky looking aero pieces. I'd rather they just use the DP01.

          Let's think clean sheet of paper instead. And if not a completely clean sheet, start with the '93/'94 specs and modify from there.

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          • #6
            As too the engines I prefer the roar to the whine. You can sound them with the headers however you want to some degree...
            Natural Born Cynic

            What irks me (maybe its too soon for the truth), DW was a 16-oval WIN specialist, yet the vast majority those boohooing for him, hardcarders & fans, alike are the same ones trying to kill anything with more than 9 deg banking & 4 corners, where Dan ultimately made his home...

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            • #7
              Very nice looking car. Sounds awesome, etc. etc.

              But this is not the point of the redesign. The idea is something totally different and unique looking. This car here looks like an F1 car mixed with the DP01 - like they had a baby that grew into this.

              I haven't seen much from the design school ideas, probably because none of them are likely sports fans / autoracing fans / Indycar fans, but for sure the idea of something very very different will be the final answer.

              If you look at an Indycar from the 10's, 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's - things kept changing. Then from '97 - 2008 things have not changed much at all. Time to overall the look. Like the way an ALMS car looks different than an Indycar - THAT kind of BIG difference in appearance.

              The end result, of course, will be Nascar cars looking slow and stupid like they are, and Indycars looking hip and sleek and powerful. In fact, I hope the new design makes F1 cars look a little goofy in comparison
              -kind of like a Dan Wheldon haircut- you know its expensive but you can't figure out why. With the new Indycars, I want it to be an obvious form and function marriage that also looks innovative- without all the craziness that F1 tries to do every year.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by millrace
                With the new Indycars, I want it to be an obvious form and function marriage that also looks innovative- without all the craziness that F1 tries to do every year.
                What, you didn't like the towers and tusks that BMW tried? lol

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by millrace
                  This car here looks like an F1 car mixed with the DP01 - like they had a baby that grew into this.
                  The car is literally a DP01 with an airbox and a couple of aero pieces behind each sidepod. Nothing more, nothing less.

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                  • #10
                    What part of "there won't be a suspended front wing" don't you understand. Lets not get into the why's of it all over again, trust me (or don't if you wish), that is a fact. If none of the cars have a suspended front wing, it doesn't matter if it is a better idea or not. The next car, which won't appear until 2011 at the earliest, will have enough downforce in the tunnels and wings to make it race safe and be drivable. They know just how fast they want these cars to go, and how to get them there, no matter what the horsepower is. I'm fed up with this beauty contest crap, I want a car that is most of all safe, it must have enough flat "billboard" space for number identification and sponsorship signage, and that's all I care about. They could simply refresh and update the Dallara design and it would suit me fine, I don't even care if they went to a higher nose to return to push rods.
                    Last edited by Mack Too; 03-08-2008, 05:57 PM.
                    It's always been about the Indy 500!
                    I realize I have the right to remain silent, but don't have the ability or enough common sense to do so.:rolleyes:

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                    • #11
                      "If none of the cars don't have a suspended front wing, it doesn't matter if it is a better idea or not."

                      what? You lost me.

                      I like the idea of safety too. They have to put safety first. Speed is second.

                      If they slow the car down too much they will lose me.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by speedmonkey
                        The car is literally a DP01 with an airbox and a couple of aero pieces behind each sidepod. Nothing more, nothing less.
                        Well, for starters, the tub is similar but not the same. The side pods are different. The front suspension is different. The rear suspension is different. The fuel cell is different. The front wings are different as are the end plates. The engine and gearbox are, of course, different. This car has barge boards whereas the DP01 doesn't. This car has little winglets at the rear of the sidepods while the DP01 doesn't...

                        Yeah, other than that, it's a DP01.
                        "I would really like to go to NASCAR. I really enjoy NASCAR and if I could be there in a couple of years that's where I'd want to be." - Jeff Gordon (after testing a Formula Super Vee)

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                        • #13
                          I subscribe to the design philosophy of "less equals more" (one of the reasons I'm a fan of Apple computers). The car above is the exact opposite of that philosophy!

                          The 'current' Panoz G-Force is the perfect blend of style and simplicity. There is no reason Panoz couldn't work from that platform to come up with a new car if the IRL wants something evolutionary instead of revolutionary?
                          "But not all of them, Jean-Pierre. There are some who come for that, for the accidents and the fires. But the others...
                          the others ride with you all. You put something in their lives they can't put there themselves."
                          -- Louise Frederickson in Grand Prix

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by raskav
                            former CART licensee

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                            • #15
                              Bring the engine. But the car looks like it might have drag issues on ovals. Too many extraneous aerodynamic doohickeys.
                              "Only a fool fights in a burning house."-Kang

                              "If you listen to fools....The Maaahhhhb Ruuuules....."-Ronnie James Dio

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