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  • #31
    Originally posted by Sweaty Teddy View Post
    If I ran the NHRA, of if I were able to start my own drag racing organization, I would:

    - Ban superchargers from the fuel classes. Basically I'd take the current A/FD formula running in Top Alcohol Dragster, run that as Top Fuel and adapt the formula to Funny Cars.
    - Reform Funny Car body specs.
    - Replace the current Pro Stock with Factory Stock Showdown. Actual stock-appearing cars wheelstanding and running in the 7s? Chevrolet, Ford, and Dodge all involved? Sign me up. I'd make a couple very minor changes to the rules to open it up to other makes, but I would keep the cars as stock as they are currently.
    - Return to the quarter mile for all classes.
    NHRA runs that show about 40 times per year to an audience of friends and family.
    Racing ain't much, but workin's nothing. Richard Tharp

    Lying was a no-brainer for me. Robin Miller

    "I thought they booed [Danica] because she was being a complete jerk, but then they applauded for A.J. Foyt. Now I'm just confused."

    The real world sucks. Ed McCullough

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    • #32
      Originally posted by atrackforumfan View Post

      NHRA runs that show about 40 times per year to an audience of friends and family.
      They need to package it as the Big Show for TV and in person. Lucas Oil Race Series action at 3am or midweek isn't the same as being on FOX Sports on the weekend.

      On that, I'd look at getting away from live coverage (too much down time) and going back to a 60 or 90-minute produced highlights show.
      “America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed.” - Eleanor Roosevelt

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      • #33
        People have been trying to sell other stuff in place of blown nitro cars for over 50 years. There's never been a direct substitute.
        Racing ain't much, but workin's nothing. Richard Tharp

        Lying was a no-brainer for me. Robin Miller

        "I thought they booed [Danica] because she was being a complete jerk, but then they applauded for A.J. Foyt. Now I'm just confused."

        The real world sucks. Ed McCullough

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        • #34
          Originally posted by atrackforumfan View Post
          People have been trying to sell other stuff in place of blown nitro cars for over 50 years. There's never been a direct substitute.
          Nostalgia drags might be the closest thing going. Pretty much managed competition though.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by atrackforumfan View Post
            People have been trying to sell other stuff in place of blown nitro cars for over 50 years. There's never been a direct substitute.
            True, but they're not going back to the quarter mile for the big cars. I will mention that the A/FD National Records are 5.10 and 285 MPH and they run the quarter mile.
            “America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed.” - Eleanor Roosevelt

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            • #36
              Given a choice between 1000 ft blown nitro racing and quarter mile AFD, 90+ percent of fans will go for the blown option when they back up their words with their wallets.

              By comparison, TAD is a competition to find the world's tallest midget.
              Racing ain't much, but workin's nothing. Richard Tharp

              Lying was a no-brainer for me. Robin Miller

              "I thought they booed [Danica] because she was being a complete jerk, but then they applauded for A.J. Foyt. Now I'm just confused."

              The real world sucks. Ed McCullough

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              • #37
                Each time I tune into NHRA drags I see full stands (or nearly so) and multiple sponsors on cars, and someone here is going to tell them how to re-invent for success. I guess I just don't get it.
                "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." H.L. Mencken

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                • #38
                  Part of the OCIR thrill was the Santa Anna Freeway shutdown embankment.

                  Last edited by Stagger D. Halibrand; 06-15-2019, 07:19 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by atrackforumfan View Post
                    Given a choice between 1000 ft blown nitro racing and quarter mile AFD, 90+ percent of fans will go for the blown option when they back up their words with their wallets.

                    By comparison, TAD is a competition to find the world's tallest midget.
                    A/FD has never been the big show.
                    “America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed.” - Eleanor Roosevelt

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by dalz View Post

                      Isn't that more or less where the Top Alcohol classes are today?

                      And another thing, when there is an no-chute/brakes runaway incident, these are the classes where I see it the most. I wonder if the TA 1/4mi. days are numbered.
                      I'm not sure of the TA numbers are but I thought they were around 2500 hp or so, but I could be mistaken. On your point on the incidents I wonder if there is an NHRA or other body not properly looking at Top Alcohol or Top Funny Car safety requirements.

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                      • #41
                        So apparently there's no regular Pro Stock at New England Dragway this weekend, but there is a Mountain Motor Pro Stock exhibition class NHRA is running. Somehow that feels more interesting?

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                        • #42
                          Traditional NHRA Pro Stock is a dead class. Manufacturers don't support it, fans don't care about it, racers can't make a living from it, and it's hard to find 16 or 17 drivers who want to do it 24 times a year. I think that the reason that it's dead is that the star power of 60s Super Stock racing has finally and inevitably been depleted. Funny Cars overtook Super Stock cars as attractions a long time ago. Traditional NHRA Pro Stock is neither crazy enough to compete with blown fuel Funny Car as an attraction nor stock enough to appeal to drivers and fans who like traditional Super Stock, Gas, etc.

                          Mountain Motor Pro Stock is closer to Pro Modified than to traditional NHRA Pro Stock. They're racing this year as an "exhibition" class, tho they get a Wally for winning. I don't know whether NHRA puts up a purse. The few NHRA Mountain Motor events are in areas that support Mountain Motor racing, so they will get those fans.

                          I think the only classes that run all 24 national events now are the Top Fuel dragsters and the blown fuel Funny Cars. For almost everyone who doesn't make a living from the race car, 24 weekends at the track is too much to both make a living by doing something else and pay for the race car by doing something else. There still are plenty of dentists, car dealers, engine builders, parts makers, etc who want to race about once a month for a Wally and a chance at a national championship, and are willing to dent their net worth to do it. Every weekend off equals money they can make from business and money they aren't spending on racing.
                          Last edited by atrackforumfan; 07-02-2019, 09:36 PM.
                          Racing ain't much, but workin's nothing. Richard Tharp

                          Lying was a no-brainer for me. Robin Miller

                          "I thought they booed [Danica] because she was being a complete jerk, but then they applauded for A.J. Foyt. Now I'm just confused."

                          The real world sucks. Ed McCullough

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                          • #43
                            The latest rumor swirling around the pits is that NHRA bring back quarter-mile racing to Top Fuel and Funny Car at select races in 2020-http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...ct-nhra-events
                            This comes after 11 years of 1,000' running and now they're running faster to 1,000 feet than they were doing the full quarter mile in 2008, such is the development in the engines and more importantly, clutches. Of course not every team or driver is excited at this prospect as most cars are now set up for 1,000 and alot of carnage and dollars are spent going that extra 320 feet. They even talked about this subject on Mid-Week Motorsports so it definitely has legs.
                            "We let bygones be under the bridge..." AJ Foyt

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