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  • #2
    I'm guessing Herrington has a clean slate too, but I really doubt either are even interested in returning.
    " I can tolerate people forming opinions based on ignorance... that happens every day, but don't pass off your ignorance as facts."

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    • #3
      I hope O2RT got a big fat apology from IndyCar. It's ridiculous that it had to take a change of ownership of Indy Lights and change of management in IndyCar for O2RT to be allowed back in. I'll be cheering extra hard for O2RT next year, it speaks for the characters of the people in the team to first call out a team for cheating and the organization to sweep it under the rug, and than after being treated very poorly by IndyCar, to make a return to the series.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Miguel View Post
        I hope O2RT got a big fat apology from IndyCar. It's ridiculous that it had to take a change of ownership of Indy Lights and change of management in IndyCar for O2RT to be allowed back in. I'll be cheering extra hard for O2RT next year, it speaks for the characters of the people in the team to first call out a team for cheating and the organization to sweep it under the rug, and than after being treated very poorly by IndyCar, to make a return to the series.
        Did they break the contract they signed? If so, sounds like they're scum, and deserved the suspension they got.

        My two cents, at least.
        "I want to be a race car passenger: just a guy who bugs the driver. Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..."

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        • #5
          What exactly happened in 2011 Milwaukee?
          Double Standards! The TrackForum Motto!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by lizardfolk View Post
            What exactly happened in 2011 Milwaukee?
            02 said what a lot of people had been feeling for a long time, that a certain dominant Lights team was getting away with cheating. It was their contention that Indycar was aware of what was going but was letting it go on anyway for whatever reason. So at Milwaukee they tried to organize a boycott among the non-super team drivers of the race (or qualifying or something) to draw attention to the situation. All of the drivers agreed to go through with it but when the time came, only O2's driver Dempsey made good on what he said. Supposedly Indycar had made all sorts of threats to the various teams and drivers not to attempt a boycott and apparently their message got through. For their part, O2 were kicked out indefinitely.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by uncommonsense52 View Post
              Did they break the contract they signed? If so, sounds like they're scum, and deserved the suspension they got.

              My two cents, at least.
              That kind of corporate thinking is exactly what is wrong with the world today.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Miguel View Post
                That kind of corporate thinking is exactly what is wrong with the world today.
                Aside from the "scum" aspect there's nothing wrong with the belief at all. Contracts exist for a reason, and if there's a legitimate reason to break one it's more often than not an unenforceable contract to begin with - contracts that meet all legal requirements rarely end up in a situation where there's a good reason to break it early(and when they do, it is usually broken by mutual agreement, absolving all parties of liability).

                It speaks volumes that I never heard any specifics about O2's accusations. The fact that they seemed unwilling identify them publicly makes me immensely suspicious of their claims.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jcolbert View Post
                  02 said what a lot of people had been feeling for a long time, that a certain dominant Lights team was getting away with cheating.
                  People in racing cheating?

                  I'm shocked.

                  It was their contention that Indycar was aware of what was going but was letting it go on anyway for whatever reason.
                  So did they ever announce what this was?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Privateer View Post
                    So did they ever announce what this was?
                    Did who ever announce what?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by FormulaFox View Post
                      Aside from the "scum" aspect there's nothing wrong with the belief at all. Contracts exist for a reason, and if there's a legitimate reason to break one it's more often than not an unenforceable contract to begin with - contracts that meet all legal requirements rarely end up in a situation where there's a good reason to break it early(and when they do, it is usually broken by mutual agreement, absolving all parties of liability).

                      It speaks volumes that I never heard any specifics about O2's accusations. The fact that they seemed unwilling identify them publicly makes me immensely suspicious of their claims.
                      I doubt the contract O2RT signed, had anything in it saying "we are IndyCar and we will not allow for cheating, unless you are Team X". And still, if you sign a contract in good faith, and then are being treated unfair, of course you should speak out against that.
                      MotorRacingblog.nl | Kwaliteitsblog

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                      • #12
                        How sad do you have to be to "cheat" in Indy Lights?

                        The fact that it took 2 years to "welcome" Mark Olson back is laughable.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Todd Gack View Post
                          How sad do you have to be to "cheat" in Indy Lights?

                          The fact that it took 2 years to "welcome" Mark Olson back is laughable.
                          Doesn't matter, the gack is back. That's all that matters.
                          Get your head out of your past!!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Todd Gack View Post
                            How sad do you have to be to "cheat" in Indy Lights?
                            That's the whole thing, in a series where an additional 30hp can get you the pole or a win, and you get caught using a product that was enhancing engine performance, but nothing was done about it, the other teams are going to complain.
                            " I can tolerate people forming opinions based on ignorance... that happens every day, but don't pass off your ignorance as facts."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by FormulaFox View Post
                              Contracts exist for a reason, and if there's a legitimate reason to break one it's more often than not an unenforceable contract to begin with - contracts that meet all legal requirements rarely end up in a situation where there's a good reason to break it early(and when they do, it is usually broken by mutual agreement, absolving all parties of liability).
                              Exactly.

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