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  • Drivers who failed ROP

    Is there a list anywhere of drivers who have failed ROP? I'm morbidly curious.

  • #2
    I’ll start with Eddie Sachs.
    Back then it was a “Test”.
    And he failed it three times (‘53,’54,’55).
    “With the help of God and true friends, I come to realize
    I still got two strong legs, even wings to fly
    I ain’t wastin’ time no more...”

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    • #3
      https://www.trackforum.org/forum/mot...ed-rookie-test
      “With the help of God and true friends, I come to realize
      I still got two strong legs, even wings to fly
      I ain’t wastin’ time no more...”

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      • #4
        Thank you! That's an awesome thread.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ACCP View Post

          Thank you! That's an awesome thread.
          It is. As pointed out in that thread though, there is a distinction between "failing the test" and not "completing" the test. Some drivers got on track and had a car capable, but couldn't perform as needed to pass the test. Some guys didn't have a car capable of getting the necessary speed (or be mechanically sound) to even complete the test.

          And, as pointed out, ROP has gotten much easier in the last several years.
          "For in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's future, and we are all mortal".

          John Kennedy at American University 1963

          "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power"

          A. Lincoln

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          • #6
            There was a time when rookies were frequently entered in older cars that may or may not have had the speed to make it through all of the phases. They also may not have had the reliability along with lack of speed. All of this ceased to be an issue with advent of spec cars.

            Even before this ROP became a formality, not an actual test to see if a rookie driver unfamiliar with the Speedway had what it took to compete. If the car was any good the driver passed . Instances of a driver in a decent car not passing are extremely rare.
            The Ayn Rand of Indycar

            No one had to badge the Offy.

            Crapping all over threads since 2000.

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            • #7
              Please excuse my ignorance. What does ROP stand for?
              Duncan Rollo

              The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

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              • #8
                Rookie Orientation Program
                "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
                body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting
                "...holy $^!+...what a ride!"
                >

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                • #9
                  Thanks. I guessed as far as 'R' but coudn't see the rest.
                  Duncan Rollo

                  The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Belanger99 View Post


                    And, as pointed out, ROP has gotten much easier in the last several years.
                    Its not even worth comparing now to the way it was years ago.

                    I am not sure it would be physically possible to "fail" ROP today, no matter how incompetent and/or inexperienced a driver may be.

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                    • #11
                      Who was the last driver that was told they did not have enough experience to even try to take the rookie test?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 4 Corner Fan View Post
                        Who was the last driver that was told they did not have enough experience to even try to take the rookie test?
                        Willie T?
                        Chicago Blackhawks done didn't do it again!

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                        • #13
                          Scott Mayer took and failed ROP in 2003 with PDM and then took and failed it again in 2005 with Foyt. I remember he took out a newspaper ad defending his inability to pass the test in 2005.
                          Real drivers don't need fenders!

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                          • #14
                            Harry Sauce comes to mind...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 4 Corner Fan View Post
                              Who was the last driver that was told they did not have enough experience to even try to take the rookie test?
                              Didn't they decline Jean-Pierre Frey in 1989?

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