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  • 1934 Indy/Gangster Trivia questions

    (1) Prior to the '34 500 the FBI informed the Indiana State Police to be on the lookout for this criminal as they had a tip that he might be attending the race. The FBI also sent some of their crew to the race to try and spot him.

    Bonus questions:

    (2) What other early '30s criminal enjoyed racing stock cars under an assumed name at one of the many small suburban Chicago dirt tracks?
    (3) The name of another early '30s criminal who apparently wrote Henry Ford to tell him how much he loved the power of the new Ford V-8?

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  • #2
    3. That would be Indy's own John Dillinger.
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    • #3
      Not the answer for #3. Keep trying.

      "Charging a man with murder here was like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500."- Capt. Willard, Apocolypse Now
      "Ain't nuthin' like [being with a woman], 'cept maybe the Indy 500."- Bunny, Platoon
      "To alcohol! The cause of- and solution to- all of life's problems."- Homer J. Simpson

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      • #4
        Clyde Barrow is the answer to #3.
        Real drivers don't need fenders!

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        • #5
          I believe Baby Face Nelson is the answer to #2. He apparently raced at Roby Speedway, which was located on the Illinois/Indiana border.
          Real drivers don't need fenders!

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          • #6
            Yep on number 2 and 3!

            The Clyde Barrow letter is preserved and in a museum somewhere or perhaps with the death car. They don't know for sure about the authenticity of it but it appears to be real. Of course he died in a '34 Ford V-8 in May, 1934.

            As for Baby Face, I didn't remember the name of the speedway but that sounds like it's it. There's only been one complete biography on Baby Face and it was a great read. As I was reading it I could see he probably drove right past my house on one of his trips through New Glarus, WI.

            Still need an answer on #1.
            ( note that the answer given in the second post was for question #3)
            Last edited by Stick500; 02-04-2020, 07:03 PM.
            "Charging a man with murder here was like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500."- Capt. Willard, Apocolypse Now
            "Ain't nuthin' like [being with a woman], 'cept maybe the Indy 500."- Bunny, Platoon
            "To alcohol! The cause of- and solution to- all of life's problems."- Homer J. Simpson

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            • #7
              Was the answer to #1 Pretty Boy Floyd?
              “Church supper with grandma and granddad, lets go out and have ourselves the best time we ever had" - John Mellencamp

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              • #8
                #1 Al Brady?

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                • #9
                  Psst. Down at da candy shop I got a hot tip from one of da boys
                  If it isn’t Umbrella Mike it’s at least another piece of trivia.

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                  Kelly Petillo would be too easy, or not?

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                  • #10
                    Nope #1 is not Pretty Boy, Brady or Petillo.
                    (Hint: don't let the wrong answer for #3 in the second post trip you up that his name has already been mentioned for #1)
                    "Charging a man with murder here was like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500."- Capt. Willard, Apocolypse Now
                    "Ain't nuthin' like [being with a woman], 'cept maybe the Indy 500."- Bunny, Platoon
                    "To alcohol! The cause of- and solution to- all of life's problems."- Homer J. Simpson

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                    • #11

                      Isn't it Dillinger?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by goner View Post
                        Kelly Petillo would be too easy, or not?
                        And too wrong. In 1934, Kelly Petillo was expected to be there, to drive in the race. Which he did. Indiana State Police were informed that he might be at IMS, but that was 23 years later, and he was being sought on a parole violation. Also, in 1934, Petillo was years from beginning his legal run-ins, aside from the time he was a teenager and had his license suspended.

                        Besides, Petillo isn't known to have any mob/gangster ties, he was truly an individual.
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                        • #13
                          Yep, the answer to #1 is John Dillinger. The FBI Dillinger Task Force based in Chicago was in full force in May '34. No one ever reported seeing him at the race that year and I just did a little more digging on this and found out the race was on May 30 and Dillinger (they later found out) was starting his facial plastic surgery and fingerprint removal on May 28, which of course required recovery time. But they do say he was at a Cubs game on June 8 and a few more baseball games throughout the summer.

                          Of course it all ended for John that July at the Biograph. He is buried in Crown Hill Cemetary not far from Speedway, which also features many race car drivers from the old days.

                          Earlier this year The Star ran a story about one of Dillinger's getaway drivers who was also a dirt track race car driver.
                          He was also in the news this year when the cemetery refused to let John's relatives dig him up to make sure it was really him that was shot that day.

                          Thanks for playing guys!
                          "Charging a man with murder here was like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500."- Capt. Willard, Apocolypse Now
                          "Ain't nuthin' like [being with a woman], 'cept maybe the Indy 500."- Bunny, Platoon
                          "To alcohol! The cause of- and solution to- all of life's problems."- Homer J. Simpson

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                          • #14
                            Definitely some cool trivia. We were walking to a movie theater in Chicago last summer and chanced on the Biograph.
                            Real drivers don't need fenders!

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                            • #15
                              Yeah, I enjoyed poking around on google searching for clues and saw a lot of cool stuff
                              I kept thinking - Dillinger - he was living here after all, but that too seemed too easy.

                              I worked with a ol’ gal back in the day that knew him. Meridian street, Indiana Ave were the hangouts and where she lived and played. She said “everybody” knew he was there, even the cops.

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