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    I was reading a thread about Ed Elisian on another website and it had a link to a Phil Harms boxscore for the 1959 USAC Milwaukee race (the one he died in), but the link was dead (thread posted in 2008). I looked Harms up and apparently he had very detailed race reports for all the AAA/USAC races. But I can't find them anywhere. Anyone have a copy?

  • #2
    Closest I could get, sorry:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20020930...e.asp?C=CH5907
    "Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone, is life"
    ~ Sanskrit poem attributed to Kalidasa, "Salutation to the Dawn"


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    • #3
      Following the death of Phil Harms, someone took over his archive with the intention of digitising and publishing the information. Unfortunately I forget who it was - I think it was an established database website. It might be web.archive or at least have a connection.
      Duncan Rollo

      The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

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      • #4
        Here's a link to a PDF of an inventory of the original Harms sources - maybe contact the museum and ask them to photo scan the original

        http://www.dalnet.lib.mi.us/henryfor...on2009-103.pdf

        Or try Henry Ford :

        https://www.thehenryford.org/collect...ctions/361678/
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        • #5
          Dick Wallen books had his stuff in the appendix. Look there.
          "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
          body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting
          "...holy $^!+...what a ride!"
          >

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          • #6
            Someone on the Trackforum Facebook page asks that you PM him there:

            https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...reactions=true

            There's really no such thing as Gary the Moose, Sybil.

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            • #7
              Harms data for '59 Milwaukee attached....
              Attached Files

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              • #8
                Very much appreciated! Thanks!
                There's really no such thing as Gary the Moose, Sybil.

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                • #9
                  Thats the wrong race.

                  Ed was killed in the August 200 miler.
                  "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
                  body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting
                  "...holy $^!+...what a ride!"
                  >

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                  • #10
                    My bad. Thanks for the info.
                    "Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone, is life"
                    ~ Sanskrit poem attributed to Kalidasa, "Salutation to the Dawn"


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                    • #11
                      Champcarstats - com is another fun place to visit.
                      www.ragingphotos.com

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                      • #12
                        The second 1959 Milwaukee race results from Phil Harms:
                        Attached Files

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                        • #13
                          You're the best! Thsnks!
                          There's really no such thing as Gary the Moose, Sybil.

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                          • #14
                            I wasn't just looking for the Milwaukee results, that just happened to be how I found out about his stats.

                            Thanks anyway.

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                            • #15
                              Is the car Elisian died in the same one Herk drove at Indy in 1960?
                              "You just don't know what Indy Means", Al Unser Jr.

                              "That's why to me it does feel more precious when an American wins it...", Michael Andretti

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