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  • #16
    Originally posted by Pelican Joe View Post
    Thanks for sharing. I'm sure it's been said before around these parts, but Jim Rathmann's 1960 winner eventually turned into Nolan Johncock's super modified in which he was fatally injured in 1971.
    The parallel story in the documentary Superspeedway is about the restoration of a roadster that Mario Andretti drove. It had been reworked into a super in its past. From the initial scenes, it wouldn’t have taken much to declare it unrestorable...


    • #17
      Originally posted by flatlander_48 View Post
      Ah, found it, but I may need a bit to work up on the price!?!?
      I think I may have gotten a deal because I've known Photo Joe my whole life. I paid a lot, but I don't think it was that much.
      "He went into a tire barrier, which is certainly the nicest of all the barriers." -Bobby Unser, Denver '90


      • #18
        I've only been to Oswego once for an ISMA race, but dang those cars are beautiful and impressive up close!

        "If you don't do it this year, you'll be another year older when you do"


        • #19
          In New England the modified coupes were gradually whittled down to evolve into a dangerous class of 'Cut Downs' of the mid to late 50s. By the end of the 50s the cut downs were evolving into transitional generation 'super modifieds' by the early 60s the first generation of genuine super modifieds with flat paneled bodywork and tube frames was evolving - centered in Oswego. Pictured in this link is a Boston area cut-down of the late 50s that constituted one of the transitional cars of the time and raced with the newly formed New England Super Mod Assn. This and several hot cut downs made the trek to Oswego for the 1960-62 Classic - from 1963 on the car was obsolete in that category. Note the mechanic credits on the car. Here's a photo from the start of the 1960 Oswego Classic with another Boston based cut-down (super-mod) on the pole. (Red Sequin)
          Last edited by carl s; 07-21-2019, 03:03 PM.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by DavidM View Post
            I've only been to Oswego once for an ISMA race, but dang those cars are beautiful and impressive up close!

            I can’t comment on weights and dimensions, but the fundamental difference between eastern and western supers is that out west aluminum big blocks were legal but eastern cars were restricted to cast iron blocks. Also, wings were fixed in the west and looked more like Indy car wings compared to the ones on air cylinders as shown in the above photo that look more like sprint car wings. For these reasons, eastern folks quit towing out for the Copper World because they weren’t competitive against the western cars. As I remember, the supermodified lap record at Phoenix was about a 158mph average. Indy cars were the only things that were faster...

            When I lived in New York State, I attended the motorsports trade show the weekend before Thanksgiving at the Fairgrounds in Syracuse. Winters and one or 2 other companies that do quick change diffs and rear axles would display their products. The assemblies for supers were always odd to look at because the distance from the diff to the right hub was about 4 times the distance from the diff to the left hub. Most assuredly the driveshaft was outboard of the left side frame tubes!


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