Bristol + rain = No Robby in race?

[Littleman]

I'm pretty sure, but if TT's get rained out, then Robby Gordon goes home, right? Kinda sucks, especially when some others, due to "owner points" from last year, even though they were not in the car, last year, get into the show.

[Lee Roy]

I'm pretty sure, but if TT's get rained out, then Robby Gordon goes home, right? Kinda sucks, especially when some others, due to "owner points" from last year, even though they were not in the car, last year, get into the show.

Not necessarily. Here are the rules that I found at Jayski:

Qualifying Cancelled? so what happens if qualifying is cancelled?

http://www.jayski.com/stats/2006standings/2006owners.htm

If it is the first 5 races of the season, the previous season OWNERS points are used:

#1) - Previous season Owner Points [position 1-35]
#2) - Race winners from the previous and current season not already in the field
#3) - Past Nextel Cup Champions not in by 1 or 2
#4) - Current season Owner Points [Top 35][not in by rules 1-3]
#5) - Current season race attempts ties broken by current owners points standings
(if the first race of season, would be race attempts from the previous season)

With these rules, I think Robby would probably be able to make it, but I haven't taken the entry list and studied it. I don't think anyone would get in by #2, Terry Labonte would get in by #3 and Robby would be the first one to get in by #4.

But I could be wrong.

[Lee Roy]

Here's who Robby has to beat out to get in the field. I think it's pretty safe to say he'll be in the race on Sunday.

#00-Hermie Sadler
#4-Scott Wimmer
#7-Robby Gordon
#10-Scott Riggs
#32-Travis Kvapil
#34-Chad Caffin
#37-Mike Skinner
#51-Mike Garvey
#61-Kevin Lepage
#78-Kenny Wallace
#89-Morgan Shepherd
#92-Chad Blount
#95-Stanton Barrett
#96-Terry Labonte [CH]

[CH] has champ prov to use if needed

added after initial entry list was posted:
#74-Derrike Cope

[Littleman]

Thanks, Lee Roy. I found this, also, on Jayski:

If qualifying is rained out, the making the race would be: #'s 96 [past champ], 7,10 [current top-35 owners points], then 61,4,32,00,95 [2006 race attempts, ties broken by owners points position]
missing the race would be #'s: 34,78,89,92,74,37,51

[Lee Roy]

That's great. I'm glad to see he'll make the race if qualifying is rained out. He's been doing great this year and it would be a shame to have circumstances beyond his control give him a setback.

After this week the starting line-up for races will start with the current owners points, and Robby's doing quite well in this year's points.

[roach]

He'll start 37th.

roach

[MoparsRule]

Food City 500

Bristol Motor Speedway | March 26, 2006 1:30 pm ET
Entry List | Qualifying


Click a column heading once to sort.

Pos
#
Driver
Sponsor
Car

1
20
Tony Stewart
Home Depot
Chevrolet

2
16
Greg Biffle
National Guard
Ford

3
99
Carl Edwards
Office Depot
Ford

4
6
Mark Martin
AAA
Ford

5
48
Jimmie Johnson
Lowe's
Chevrolet

6
12
Ryan Newman
Alltel
Dodge

7
17
Matt Kenseth
USG Sheetrock
Ford

8
26
Jamie McMurray
Sharpie
Ford

9
2
Kurt Busch
Miller Lite
Dodge

10
19
Jeremy Mayfield
Dodge Dealers/UAW
Dodge

11
24
Jeff Gordon
DuPont
Chevrolet

12
42
Casey Mears
Texaco/Havoline
Dodge

13
38
Elliott Sadler
M&M's
Ford

14
29
Kevin Harvick
GM Goodwrench
Chevrolet

15
88
Dale Jarrett
UPS
Ford

16
01
Joe Nemechek
U.S. Army
Chevrolet

17
25
Brian Vickers
ditech.com/GMAC
Chevrolet

18
31
Jeff Burton
Cingular Wireless
Chevrolet

19
8
Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Budweiser
Chevrolet

20
5
Kyle Busch
Kellogg's
Chevrolet

21
21
Ken Schrader
Little Debbie
Ford

22
41
Reed Sorenson
Target
Dodge

23
9
Kasey Kahne
Dodge Dealers/UAW
Dodge

24
18
J.J. Yeley
GSK AsthmaControl.com
Chevrolet

25
1
Martin Truex Jr.
Bass Pro Shops
Chevrolet

26
40
David Stremme
Lonestar Steakhouse
Dodge

27
07
Clint Bowyer
Jack Daniels
Chevrolet

28
45
Kyle Petty
Schwan's
Dodge

29
66
Jeff Green
Best Buy
Chevrolet

30
43
Bobby Labonte
Cheerios/Betty Crocker
Dodge

31
49
Brent Sherman
Serta
Dodge

32
22
Dave Blaney
Caterpillar
Dodge

33
11
Denny Hamlin
FedEx
Chevrolet

34
55
Michael Waltrip
NAPA
Dodge

35
14
Sterling Marlin
Waste Management
Chevrolet

36
96
Terry Labonte
DLP HDTV/Tweeter
Chevrolet

37
7
Robby Gordon
Menards
Chevrolet


38
10
Scott Riggs
Valvoline
Dodge

39
61
Kevin Lepage
RoadLoans.com
Ford

40
4
Scott Wimmer
AERO Exhaust
Chevrolet

41
32
Travis Kvapil
Tide
Chevrolet

42
00
Hermie Sadler
Aaron's
Ford

43
95
Stanton Barrett
Hairofdog.com
Chevrolet

Failed to Qualify


92
Chad Blount
Unsponsored
Chevrolet


34
Chad Chaffin
Kingsport Iron & Metal
Chevrolet


74
Derrike Cope
MyGuardian911
Dodge


78
Kenny Wallace
Furniture Row
Chevrolet


51
Mike Garvey
Marathon Motor Oil
Chevrolet


37
Mike Skinner
R&J Racing
Dodge


89
Morgan Shepherd
Dutch Quality Stone
Dodge

[Doctorindy]

I've always been annoyed by that rule (using the previous year's points). I understand why they have it, but I think they could get away with using it only for the first three races, not five. Three races should be enough to establish, at least minimally, who's who in any given year.

[Coyote]

I've always been annoyed by that rule (using the previous year's points). I understand why they have it, but I think they could get away with using it only for the first three races, not five. Three races should be enough to establish, at least minimally, who's who in any given year.

I believe they have the rule to quell the calls for franchising by owners such as Petty. Petty's point was that long time supporters of the series such as his team don't have anything other then equipment when they go to sell their race team, so he wanted franchising.

Nascar didn't want to give up any pieces of the pie or prevent new teams from entering, yet they had to stop the franchise talk. So they gave a very small carrot to the teams by letting participation in one year be of some franchise-style benefit in the next year. It's not much since after five races it's just the new years points anyway, but it's something.

If they only used three races as the criteria the teams would realize they'd been given nothing and would still be campaiging for some salable equity in Nascar.