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    NASCAR moving the July Daytona race to September?

    Do they understand what happens in September in the Atlantic Coast Region every year? That would really screw things up.

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    Here we go again.

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    • #3
      Trying to decide if JSJLW is talking about hurricane season or Hurricane Season?
      Last edited by Jakester; 08-13-2019, 05:47 PM.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jakester View Post
        Trying to decide if JSFLW is talking about hurricane season or Hurricane Season?
        Probably, BOTH!!!
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        • #5
          Yeah Basically. You don't make a major event in Florida for mid-August through September, you could maybe postpone a race, but with all those motor homes around it would be hard to do it. You could possibly postpone the race a few days out if needed, but then what, RACE THANKGIVING, I am sure the drivers would love that.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JSJLW View Post
            Yeah Basically. You don't make a major event in Florida for mid-August through September, you could maybe postpone a race, but with all those motor homes around it would be hard to do it. You could possibly postpone the race a few days out if needed, but then what, RACE THANKGIVING, I am sure the drivers would love that.
            Two things. First, a hurricane is just as likely to hit the coast of any other state along the Atlantic Seaboard during that time as it would in Florida. We, on the east coast, don't all cower in our basements for those two months. Second, a hurricane doesn't just "pop up". You always have several day's notice with a hurricane.

            To not schedule a race during that time for fear of a hurricane is silly.
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            • #7
              I don't know but I think NASCAR knows about hurricanes since they've raced on Labor day in South Carolina for 70 years. In 2001 they did race on Thanksgiving weekend, they'd find a way to get a rained out race run maybe 8 or 10 days later and out of order. Thankfully you're worried about it so nobody else has to.
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              • #8
                Maybe they shouldn't race in the mid-western states during the summer. Tornadoes, you know. And keep the heck away from California at all times. You never know when there is going to be an earthquake.
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                • #9
                  I live in Indiana and we get impacted by remnants of tropical systems quite frequently as well. There are only so many weekends to race up here, you can't schedule by what might happen. We would never have any season up here at all. April and May are our rainy season, June through early September tend to dry out but have muggy unbearable heat at times, and by October it can get too cold for racing.

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                  • #10
                    We have had a discussion of this latest GIMMICK before, but as to weather, the chances of a hurricane is maybe 5%. OK.

                    The chances of it being what we now call "week zero" with a couple of teaser college football games (this year Florida-Miami) is 100%. One of those games will be Notre Dame - Navy. There will be about 4 more major games.

                    The chances of HS football having started in Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina is 100%.

                    The chances of kids being back in school in most of the South, where public schools generally have AC and thus start earlier than elsewhere where the school board waits for Mother Nature to cool the buildings off, is 100%.

                    Fail.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SamC View Post
                      The chances of kids being back in school in most of the South, where public schools generally have AC and thus start earlier than elsewhere where the school board waits for Mother Nature to cool the buildings off, is 100%.
                      Around here, most schools started this week (Monday the 12th), and some districts even started a week ago. So yes, school conficts..it's no longer a "summer" event as it has been for 60 years (sans 1998). That's not exactly great for families.

                      The whole hurricane/tropical storm thing...it's worth keeping in mind, but Florida doesn't shut down for two months because of stuff that *might* happen. The NFL, and college football (and dozens of other organizations) still schedule a full slate of games/events in Aug./Sept. and deal with a postponement only if it comes to pass. Every year it's the same thing around this time of year, the state goes along in a "business as usual" attitude until the radar maps and projections start showing a swirling monster headed this way. For that alone, it's no reason to avoid scheduling events in August.

                      However....date equity in sporting events (and in fact all annual events) is a oft-ignored, but invaluable asset. And they're throwing it away with this move. The 400 has been on July 4th weekend for 60 years (except 1998 due to the wildfires), and now they're moving the race to a non-descript late August date. Granted in the past several years, rain has been an issue at the 400 - but (ignoring hurricanes for a moment) late August isn't any better than early July. The rainy season is still at full song. The daily rainstorms don't cease until late September/early October.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Doctorindy View Post
                        Granted in the past several years, rain has been an issue at the 400
                        Its almost like they knew what they were doing when they used to run the Firecracker 400 with a late morning start time

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KevMcNJ View Post

                          Its almost like they knew what they were doing when they used to run the Firecracker 400 with a late morning start time
                          Yup. for many years the Firecracker 400 started at 10 a.m. The reasons were two-fold. One-it got the race going and over with before the worst heat of the day, and before the late afternoon thunderstorms arrived. Two- it provided ample time for fans and participants to head over to the beaches/attractions after the race. They shifted it to 11 a.m. in the late 80s/early 90s, but it was still over and done with pretty early. ABC used to show it on Wide World of Sports on tape delay, so live TV wasn't an issue until ESPN took the race over in 1989.

                          Big Bill was aware of his role in the community and how the local businesses heavily relied on tourism, especially on the Fourth of July. Rather than hog all the visitors, he made it possible for them to do both...go to the race in the morning, and go to the beaches, etc., in the afternoon/evening. It was interesting to see the interviews during this year's 400 broadcast...(they were reminiscing about this being the last 400 on July 4th weekend)...how many of the drivers and participants treated the Firecracker 400 as a mid-season "vacation" and often brought their families to the breach immediately after the race. And back then, the race was on July 4th regardless of the day of the week, so sometimes it allowed a few extra days even before the next race.
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                          • #14
                            In completion with SEC football does not make sense.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Niseguy View Post
                              In completion with SEC football does not make sense.
                              Assuming you meant 'in competition with SEC'....

                              NASCAR has been in competition with SEC football for some time. Moving 2nd Daytona race to September won't make much of a change. Note only 1 SEC team in Florida.

                              Races during SEC football in 'SEC land'/states:
                              - Current final race in Miami
                              - Darlington
                              - Talladega 2
                              - Texas Motor Speedway 2
                              - in the past, Atlanta 2
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