The Buyout continues....

[speedvis]

Some hate that fact.
Many others rejoice.

Despite all of the supposed hurdles, possible lawsuits, new lawsuits, miscommunication, outclauses, and scenarios... The OWRS buyout of CART continues.

A lot of things are going to happen once the chains are taken off after the successful vote.... and it will be successful.... the only other choice is to get nothing.

Christmas comes early for CART fans this year. It's been a long process cleansing the series.

2003 was the best test of a driver's skill. No "special" engines. Highly restricted aero rules. No traction control. It was a truely exciting season where the best TEAM and DRIVER won.

Remember back to the end of last season... What if Player's Forsythe had chosen Reynards.

2004 is going to happen.... with a few changes.

All will work out.... of that I'm confident and assured.

Keep the faith... be patient. And as always... CART will be just fine!

[indyracer56]

Re: The Buyout continues....

Originally posted by speedvis
Some hate that fact.
Many others rejoice.

Despite all of the supposed hurdles, possible lawsuits, new lawsuits, miscommunication, outclauses, and scenarios... The OWRS buyout of CART continues.

A lot of things are going to happen once the chains are taken off after the successful vote.... and it will be successful.... the only other choice is to get nothing.

Christmas comes early for CART fans this year. It's been a long process cleansing the series.

2003 was the best test of a driver's skill. No "special" engines. Highly restricted aero rules. No traction control. It was a truely exciting season where the best TEAM and DRIVER won.

Remember back to the end of last season... What if Player's Forsythe had chosen Reynards.

2004 is going to happen.... with a few changes.

All will work out.... of that I'm confident and assured.

Keep the faith... be patient. And as always... CART will be just fine!

Actually, the "Real" CART died a few years ago.

What emerges to take it's place will be but a pale shadow of it's former self.

Sad, but true.

[Richard Kimble]

''Many others rejoice''

I'm afraid a few hundred internet junkies are all thats left,at this point.

[jjjanos]

Re: The Buyout continues....

Originally posted by speedvis
Some hate that fact.
Many others rejoice.

Yippee skippy. I get some money for the 10 shares I bought back when I thought CART was great.

2004 is going to happen.... with a few changes.

I have yet to see a plausible explaination as to how the new CART will produce a field without sponsors and without team welfare.

Or is the Politburo going to emerge from the Bunker with their V-Weapons perfected and drive the Red Army back from the capitol?

[jetdoc]

Originally posted by Richard Kimble
''Many others rejoice''

I'm afraid a few hundred internet junkies are all thats left,at this point.

[indyracer56]

"Anyone who presumes to know with any degree of certainty what the coming weeks will bring for the sport is either a charlatan or divinely connected." - David Phillips - Nov. 2003

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/champcar/8939/

[rrrr]

Uh, please excuse me while I ridicule your embarassingly naive optomism......

[Ackermann]

Originally posted by Richard Kimble
''Many others rejoice''

I'm afraid a few hundred internet junkies are all thats left,at this point.

I'm afraid you're mistaken. Thousands of Canadian fans and Mexican fans are ready and able to take our place when we quit showing up to Milwaukee, Long Beach or any other stateside race. The next management team is prepared to take the series to THEM to make money.

When will American open-wheel fans realize that they can be replaced with other ChampCar fans from near and far. CART is wildly appealing to those who don't have it in their backyards like us. The cultish following in Canada is almost scary. I gotta believe those folks are rejoicing that the series is considering a buyout. They don't want all ovals or tintops. Neither do I.

[Cygni]

CART had attendence over the 2 MILLION mark this year. "a few hundred internet junkies" my arse.

I have yet to see a plausible explaination as to how the new CART will produce a field without sponsors and without team welfare.

12 cars confirmed in November?

[speedvis]

My answer to the questions, and ridicule is simply this.....

Confidence.

CART will have a 2004 season.

CART will continue.

The current proposed schedule is slightly different from this seasons.... Heck even F1 has adjusted their schedule twice... and possibly one more adjustment is coming...

26 or so days... and we can begin to put the public era behind us.... and focus on the future instead of last quarters results.

I'm so excited for the future of CART.... I've got to wear shades..

[Richard Kimble]

''CART is wildly appealing to those who don't have it in their backyards like us. The cultish following in Canada is almost scary.''

What a bad example.CARTs Canadian TV ratings have fallen 50% in 5 years.Current races get less than 100,000 viewer's[sometimes half of that],somewhat less than a fishing show or syncronized swimming.
NASCAR now gets 3-4 times the ratings of CART.Whats up with that,doesn't this cultish following have TV's??

With this 'scary' 'cultish' following both TO and Vancouver saw fit to renegotiate sanction fees.Why is that?Could it be the fairy tale attendance numbers given out?

CART is a nonentity here in Canada.There is a small group of hardcore in their respective markets but,overall,like the rest of NA,NASCAR has them totally crushed and marginalized.

Try living here before making such pronouncments.Try finding one person out of a crowd of one hundred that follows the series,try finding 2 that know that CART isn't go-karts.

You will fail.

[Cygni]

What a bad example.CARTs Canadian TV ratings have fallen 50% in 5 years.

What a bad example. The Indy 500's TV ratings have fallen 50% in 5 years, and thats in the U.S. Using that same logic, the IRL is doomed.

I dont think either assumption is close to correct.

[tbyars]

Originally posted by Cygni
12 cars confirmed in November?

But that list is pretty suspect. Two NH cars, Coyne, Patrick, others. I don't think anyone anywhere can say for sure (I mean 100%) on any of these or even some others, even the teams themselves. I mean, until a week ago almost every list I saw anyplace had Franchitti on someone's "confirmed" team. The real "confirmed" list? Two for Forsythe, one for PK and one for Gentilozzi. Until the buyout is done, reasonably, I think those are the only confirmed cars.

But then again, I forgot. As we learned with the original CART "schedule" (AKA list of venues), "confirmed" only means "confirmed, assuming it all works out as we anticipate!"

[Richard Kimble]

Originally posted by Cygni
What a bad example. The Indy 500's TV ratings have fallen 50% in 5 years, and thats in the U.S. Using that same logic, the IRL is doomed.

I dont think either assumption is close to correct.

What assumption?I said nothing about the I500 or IRL.This is just deflective spin.
Address the issue,not some nonrelated agenda.

[jjjanos]

Originally posted by Cygni
CART had attendence over the 2 MILLION mark this year. "a few hundred internet junkies" my arse.

Yet CART still can't turn a profit? What about the venues? With 15 races, that works out to 133K per race and they still aren't making money? Sorry, either someone is stealing money from the company or the attendance figures are bunk.

12 cars confirmed in November?

12 confirmed? Yeah, right. Where were they last year at this point?