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  • Thank you Panther Racing!

    Finally they made a right driver choice to pilot the #4 since Hornish left.

    Good job John Barnes

    Now we need the rest of the teams to follow Panther and Andretti's lead.
    "Paff has been closer to the mark than anyone will give him credit for."

    Richard Kimble 11/18/2010

    "Paff is far more right than any of you will EVER give him credit for.

    As non politically correct and un IndyCar friendly as it is, it's the truth. "

    SeeuInMay 12/29/2010

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    What lead is that?
    In the IZOD IndyCar series we're just kids enjoy the thrills in a 200 MPH candy store.

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    • #3
      Taking potential marketability / popularity more into consideration, maybe. We'll see.
      "Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone, is life"
      ~ Sanskrit poem attributed to Kalidasa, "Salutation to the Dawn"


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      • #4
        follow panther and andretti's lead = don't develop the car and be happy with mediocre performance, perhaps?
        http://danwheldon.shutterfly.com/

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mcman7890 View Post
          What lead is that?
          Hiring a talented young American driver that people can relate and pull for in this country.
          "Paff has been closer to the mark than anyone will give him credit for."

          Richard Kimble 11/18/2010

          "Paff is far more right than any of you will EVER give him credit for.

          As non politically correct and un IndyCar friendly as it is, it's the truth. "

          SeeuInMay 12/29/2010

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 9rows View Post
            follow panther and andretti's lead = don't develop the car and be happy with mediocre performance, perhaps?
            Well Panther's oval package is pretty good. Remember they finished 2nd at Indianapolis the past two years.
            "Paff has been closer to the mark than anyone will give him credit for."

            Richard Kimble 11/18/2010

            "Paff is far more right than any of you will EVER give him credit for.

            As non politically correct and un IndyCar friendly as it is, it's the truth. "

            SeeuInMay 12/29/2010

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mcman7890 View Post
              What lead is that?
              Replace a high-salaried veteran with a less expensive youngster.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Chris Paff View Post
                Hiring a talented young American driver that people can relate and pull for in this country.
                I can't related with JR past what country he is from. Anyone can pull for any driver in the series just by promoting them. I'm a Will Power fan but still cant related to them. Get me a driver from suburban chicagoand i might be able to relate to him/her.
                In the IZOD IndyCar series we're just kids enjoy the thrills in a 200 MPH candy store.

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                • #9
                  I see where he's going with this in that AA & Panther now have Americans as they're drivers. And extra credit to AA for having American drivers not only for it's IndyCar team but also it's USF2000 & Star Mazda ladder teams. And if Team Ganassi's announcement Thursday is indeed the confirmation of Rahal & Kimball as it's drivers it makes the percentage of full-time American drivers in the series at roughly 1/3rd.

                  However as far as other teams supposedly 'following their lead', what other American drivers are available & looking for an IndyCar ride as well as capable of running semi-successfully? I can only think of Townsend Bell and JR Summerton, both of which I'd like to see get rides. Perhaps also but less likely are Jimmy Kite and PJ Chesson both of which aren't going to be competitive at all on road or street courses and not running at the front on ovals even in a Penske machine. And of those drivers only Bell and possibly Summerton are likely to be even remotely competitive immediately.

                  Granted there's a couple of teams currently with non-American drivers who's talent is questionable. So Paff, clue us to who the other American drivers are that the teams should hire to round-out the grid that are more qualified than the drivers they currently have?,...and not better just because they're Americans but talent-wise??
                  ​a bad day at the race track beats a good day at work

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mcman7890 View Post
                    I can't related with JR past what country he is from. Anyone can pull for any driver in the series just by promoting them. I'm a Will Power fan but still cant related to them. Get me a driver from suburban chicagoand i might be able to relate to him/her.
                    That's great but Will Power is never going to be popular in this country reguardless if you market him or not.

                    J.R. will be a fan favorite if he starts to win on a regular basis. No marketing is needed to root for an American driver.
                    "Paff has been closer to the mark than anyone will give him credit for."

                    Richard Kimble 11/18/2010

                    "Paff is far more right than any of you will EVER give him credit for.

                    As non politically correct and un IndyCar friendly as it is, it's the truth. "

                    SeeuInMay 12/29/2010

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by indyracefan View Post
                      I see where he's going with this in that AA & Panther now have Americans as they're drivers. And extra credit to AA for having American drivers not only for it's IndyCar team but also it's USF2000 & Star Mazda ladder teams. And if Team Ganassi's announcement Thursday is indeed the confirmation of Rahal & Kimball as it's drivers it makes the percentage of full-time American drivers in the series at roughly 1/3rd.
                      1/3 is still a joke for an American based racing series
                      "Paff has been closer to the mark than anyone will give him credit for."

                      Richard Kimble 11/18/2010

                      "Paff is far more right than any of you will EVER give him credit for.

                      As non politically correct and un IndyCar friendly as it is, it's the truth. "

                      SeeuInMay 12/29/2010

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by indyracefan View Post
                        However as far as other teams supposedly 'following their lead', what other American drivers are available & looking for an IndyCar ride as well as capable of running semi-successfully? I can only think of Townsend Bell and JR Summerton, both of which I'd like to see get rides. Perhaps also but less likely are Jimmy Kite and PJ Chesson both of which aren't going to be competitive at all on road or street courses and not running at the front on ovals even in a Penske machine. And of those drivers only Bell and possibly Summerton are likely to be even remotely competitive immediately.
                        #1 Maybe if those brilliant car owners would have been interested in hiring/developing the talented American drivers in the 1990-2000's we would have more American drivers that would be looking for Indycar rides. It was pretty clear there was no interest among those elite car owners.

                        #2 There is no reason why road racing has to be a major part on the Indycar schedule.

                        #3 If Will Power can run some what near the front in a Penske car on a oval then Kite and Chesson certainly can. IMO
                        "Paff has been closer to the mark than anyone will give him credit for."

                        Richard Kimble 11/18/2010

                        "Paff is far more right than any of you will EVER give him credit for.

                        As non politically correct and un IndyCar friendly as it is, it's the truth. "

                        SeeuInMay 12/29/2010

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chris Paff View Post
                          That's great but Will Power is never going to be popular in this country reguardless if you market him or not.

                          J.R. will be a fan favorite if he starts to win on a regular basis. No marketing is needed to root for an American driver.
                          alright i'll play along. why will will power never be popular in this country? because he is an indycar driver? because he is australian? beacause he has a dry sense of humor? what exactly precludes him from becoming "popular".

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Chris Paff View Post
                            That's great but Will Power is never going to be popular in this country reguardless if you market him or not.

                            J.R. will be a fan favorite if he starts to win on a regular basis. No marketing is needed to root for an American driver.
                            And you can prove this and provide links to such proof right? Or are you simply the Amazing Karnac?

                            Originally posted by Chris Paff View Post
                            1/3 is still a joke for an American based racing series
                            Certainly better than 3 American drivers and a positive step forward. Did you think 15 American drivers were going to get hired? As I asked, what currently available and qualified American drivers looking for rides are being shunned?


                            Originally posted by Chris Paff View Post
                            #1 Maybe if those brilliant car owners would have been interested in hiring/developing the talented American drivers in the 1990-2000's we would have more American drivers that would be looking for Indycar rides. It was pretty clear there was no interest among those elite car owners.
                            Woulda, coulda, shoulda. I didn't ask for your opinion or thoughts on developing talent. I asked you what current available American drivers should be hired. Are you going to answer the question?

                            Originally posted by Chris Paff View Post
                            #2 There is no reason why road racing has to be a major part on the Indycar schedule.
                            We've been down this road a hundred times. Don't you ever get tired of repeating yourself, especially after so many have offered reasons & explanations why the situation is what it is?? Right or wrong none of us can change history and it's a drag to live in the past. Despite what you or I think should be, let's talk & deal with the reality of now, not fantasyland. I didn't ask for your thoughts or opinion on the schedule, I asked what current available American drivers should be hired to replace drivers currently in the series.

                            Originally posted by Chris Paff View Post
                            #3 If Will Power can run some what near the front in a Penske car on a oval then Kite and Chesson certainly can. IMO
                            Merely speculation and opinion on your part. My opinion is they can't. I didn't ask about Will Power or any other driver, I asked what current, available, qualified American drivers should be hired to replace current drivers.

                            So again as in my first post, I only asked what qualified, currently available American drivers should be hired to replace any current drivers. I don't want or care for your opinion about the past, CART, team owners, foreign drivers, driver development, the schedule, the cars, the color of the sky.
                            ​a bad day at the race track beats a good day at work

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redmist View Post
                              alright i'll play along. why will will power never be popular in this country? because he is an indycar driver? because he is australian? beacause he has a dry sense of humor? what exactly precludes him from becoming "popular".
                              Because he is a foreign driver racing in the US that no one has heard of before coming to the states. Also add in the fact the guy has a personality of a cardboard box.
                              "Paff has been closer to the mark than anyone will give him credit for."

                              Richard Kimble 11/18/2010

                              "Paff is far more right than any of you will EVER give him credit for.

                              As non politically correct and un IndyCar friendly as it is, it's the truth. "

                              SeeuInMay 12/29/2010

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