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    Champcar is, in my opinion, engaged in one last-ditched attempt at outsmarting the IRL and getting as much as it can in a “merger” of the open wheel series. Let’s look at the facts:

    1. The idea of a merger gets leaked to a major publication. Champcar publicly whines about how the leak “damages the potential of a merger.” But what was contained in a leak—a 50/50 split being discussed—is clearly favorable to them. By leaking the story, the agenda is set around a 50/50 split (which appeals to a subjective, and wrong, notion of fairness) which clearly favors Champcar. Champcar’s assets would not make up 50% of a “merged” series, so why should they get 50% of the benefit?

    2. Robin Miller and crew are ready with the “The IRL will struggle to get 18 at Homestead and 33 at Indy,” garbage. Fact: There are 19 confirmed cars for Homestead, 27 for Indy, with 3 more unannounced but likely…33 (maybe even 34 or 35) will be arrived at. Miller is also protesting that Champcar will bring 25 cars to the IRL…how many confirmed cars does Champcar have 9, 10? How many cars in Champcar aren’t supported by the series owners?

    3. This is the third year in a row “merger” discussions have been started in February. The reason: it links Champcar to Indy. They realize their series isn’t worth much without the 500, and this is the only way they can still be related—if only tangentially—to the 500. At the same time they’re crowing about a “merger” they’re running a race on pole day, making it almost impossible for their teams to run Indy.

    4. Champcar says that a new chassis is a big deal for the IRL. But their chassis was designed to run on road courses. The current IRL cars put on great oval shows. A no-pass, follow the leader 500 wouldn’t help anyone. I’m sure the new Panoz could be modified, but really what’s wrong with the old Panoz and Dallara? The answer is nothing.

    5. KK is now protesting that “both sides have to win.” But with the agenda set at a 50/50 split—which is far more than he deserves to get—he’s set his side up to claim the lions share of the benefit, and really set the IRL up to lose.

    To me, this is a clear case of Champcar using shrewd, if questionable, negotiating tactics to try and maximize their gains. The IRL shouldn’t negotiate as long as things are being leaked to the press, and this 50/50 notion keeps being bandied about by Champcar. The IRL has more assets, and therefore deserves more than 50% of any “merged” series.
    Last edited by MichaelG; 02-27-2006, 02:58 PM.

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    Are you any relation to Art Bell?

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    • #3
      I find it hard to believe that the suppossed leak came from IMS,considering the details seemed to indicate that CC engines and chassis',as well as many CC venues would be used.The 'leak' certainly made it look as though CC had the upper hand.

      Very hard to believe.
      ...the spice must flow.....

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      • #4
        I think MichaelG is right. This whole merger thing seems fishy.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Richard Kimble
          Very hard to believe.
          But if it is true, what does that imply? If not true what does that imply?

          Plus, no one is denying that they are talking. And they are not likely talking about French wine and styles of skis.

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          • #6
            Very good analysis, MichaelG. I believe the nail has been hit squarely on the head on all counts.
            Supporting Indy Car racing since 1959

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Richard Kimble
              I find it hard to believe that the suppossed leak came from IMS,considering the details seemed to indicate that CC engines and chassis',as well as many CC venues would be used.The 'leak' certainly made it look as though CC had the upper hand.

              Very hard to believe.
              I would have to agree that the leak was itself a hoax. I do not know who releaed it, but I would imagine that it has been denied and there is nothing to back up the original claim.

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              • #8
                i thought this was another JDSU thread.........
                the man in expensive shoes

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                • #9
                  I think this is the start of the very end of CCWS.. Its an a last chance to make something out of the Three Amigos unintellengent purchase in bankruptcy court.. Normally if you are going to buy a business assets in bankruptcy court you change the way the company did bussiness because it obvious it didnt work before..

                  CCWS is losing tens of millions of dollars each year.. (Dont ask for proof because CART lost that much in its final year and they had alot more income from sponsorships and fees then the CCWS does)..

                  2007 there will be one series i believe.. It will be the IRL Indycar Series with KK and whoever being the owner of LBGP and Toronto.. While JF will be the promoter of a Mexican race with both running cars in the IRL..
                  "Paff has been closer to the mark than anyone will give him credit for."

                  Richard Kimble 11/18/2010

                  "Paff is far more right than any of you will EVER give him credit for.

                  As non politically correct and un IndyCar friendly as it is, it's the truth. "

                  SeeuInMay 12/29/2010

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MichaelG
                    Champcar is, in my opinion, engaged in one lat-ditched attempt at swindling the IRL and getting as much as it can in a “merger” of the open wheel series. Let’s look at the facts:
                    Not a single thing you posted supports the suggestion that this is a "swindle".
                    "An emphasis was placed on drivers with road racing backgrounds which meant drivers from open wheel, oval track racing were at a disadvantage. That led Tony George to create the IRL." -Indy Review 1996

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                    • #11
                      If it is a "swindle" there could be a problem, Tony will fall for it. Ask Bernie.

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                      • #12
                        again...the 'merger' talk has been coming from the IRLcamp the past 2 1/2 years......blows a huge hole in this 'theory'



                        and Chris Paff....with all due respect.....haven't you essentially posted the some thing prior to the past two seasons?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Indyknut
                          Are you any relation to Art Bell?
                          No kiddin'. Pretty damn flimsy evidence getting thrown around here as fact.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cygni
                            No kiddin'. Pretty damn flimsy evidence getting thrown around here as fact.
                            I, for one, would be pretty interested in seeing some of that 'flimsy evidence' effectively refuted.
                            Supporting Indy Car racing since 1959

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MichaelG
                              Champcar is, in my opinion, engaged in one last-ditched attempt at outsmarting the IRL and getting as much as it can in a “merger” of the open wheel series. Let’s look at the facts:

                              1. The idea of a merger gets leaked to a major publication. Champcar publicly whines about how the leak “damages the potential of a merger.” But what was contained in a leak—a 50/50 split being discussed—is clearly favorable to them. By leaking the story, the agenda is set around a 50/50 split (which appeals to a subjective, and wrong, notion of fairness) which clearly favors Champcar. Champcar’s assets would not make up 50% of a “merged” series, so why should they get 50% of the benefit?

                              2. Robin Miller and crew are ready with the “The IRL will struggle to get 18 at Homestead and 33 at Indy,” garbage. Fact: There are 19 confirmed cars for Homestead, 27 for Indy, with 3 more unannounced but likely…33 (maybe even 34 or 35) will be arrived at. Miller is also protesting that Champcar will bring 25 cars to the IRL…how many confirmed cars does Champcar have 9, 10? How many cars in Champcar aren’t supported by the series owners?

                              3. This is the third year in a row “merger” discussions have been started in February. The reason: it links Champcar to Indy. They realize their series isn’t worth much without the 500, and this is the only way they can still be related—if only tangentially—to the 500. At the same time they’re crowing about a “merger” they’re running a race on pole day, making it almost impossible for their teams to run Indy.

                              4. Champcar says that a new chassis is a big deal for the IRL. But their chassis was designed to run on road courses. The current IRL cars put on great oval shows. A no-pass, follow the leader 500 wouldn’t help anyone. I’m sure the new Panoz could be modified, but really what’s wrong with the old Panoz and Dallara? The answer is nothing.

                              5. KK is now protesting that “both sides have to win.” But with the agenda set at a 50/50 split—which is far more than he deserves to get—he’s set his side up to claim the lions share of the benefit, and really set the IRL up to lose.

                              To me, this is a clear case of Champcar using shrewd, if questionable, negotiating tactics to try and maximize their gains. The IRL shouldn’t negotiate as long as things are being leaked to the press, and this 50/50 notion keeps being bandied about by Champcar. The IRL has more assets, and therefore deserves more than 50% of any “merged” series.
                              You missed 6:

                              TONY ADMITTED THEY WERE TALKING AND SKIING TOGETHER

                              jono

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