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    I think Williams joining the new Concorde pretty much sealed the fate of the break-away.



    A feeling of optimism about formula one's post-2007 future is growing nearly daily, with Renault F1 President Patrick Faure now admitting that peace is near.

    The Frenchman told Reuters that he would not even rule out a definitive agreement with Bernie Ecclestone and the FIA, to end the GPMA group's split threat, before the first Grand Prix of 2006.

    ''It's not impossible,'' he said.

    Faure said at the Grimaldi Forum in Monte Carlo: ''It seems that now everybody is conscious that a good compromise ... would be a good solution for the future of Formula One.''



    An end to the dispute that has cast grey clouds over F1 is nearing.

    That is the opinion of Sir Frank Williams, the last team principal to have signed up to Bernie Ecclestone's new post-2008 Concorde Agreement.

    Apart from Ferrari, Red Bull's teams and Midland, every other F1 player is still aligned with 'GPMA' and the threatened exit from the grid.

    However, asked if Mercedes, Renault, BMW, Honda and Toyota will ultimately tow the line, Williams, 63, said: ''My own opinion is that I would think so.

    ''I am aware of less chatter than three or six months ago. There is a little belligerence from one or two of the usual quarters but I think they will get together soon.''
    jono

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    I hope it's dead. I can't live through another open-wheel split.
    "Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose." --- Ayrton Senna

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    • #3
      No kidding.

      I've met some F1 fans that actually think it'd be a good thing because the manufacturer series would re-introduce the free-for-all high tech thing they love, and Max is killing F1.

      I try to warn them... So much better if they can get some of what they're asking for in a comprimise with the FIA than if they go off on their own.

      jono

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      • #4
        The one good thing about the CART/IRL split... everyone sees how stupid it was in hindsight and what devastation it has brought the sport, and it helps them head off their own stupidity.
        Tony Johns
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        • #5
          If I read you right...

          The split saved F1!!!

          Thanks for taking one for the team, US OW!

          jono

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tony Johns
            The one good thing about the CART/IRL split... everyone sees how stupid it was in hindsight and what devastation it has brought the sport, and it helps them head off their own stupidity.
            Agreed - most people are able to learn from the mistakes of others.

            Glad to hear the F1 paddock is leaning toward the majority.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tony Johns
              The one good thing about the CART/IRL split... everyone sees how stupid it was in hindsight and what devastation it has brought the sport, and it helps them head off their own stupidity.
              That's true. Hopefully KK won't run in Bernies office at the last minute with his check book! Then again, he should have know better last time (having the benefit of watching US OW struggle to make two series work for 8 years) but went ahead and bought CART & started it up all over again any way.

              In any case, I'm glad to see F1 will not have to go through what OW racing has here.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jonovision_man
                No kidding.

                I've met some F1 fans that actually think it'd be a good thing because the manufacturer series would re-introduce the free-for-all high tech thing they love, and Max is killing F1.

                I try to warn them... So much better if they can get some of what they're asking for in a comprimise with the FIA than if they go off on their own.

                jono
                I wanted a free for all split to change the way money is distibuted as well as to have each team represented in terms of directing the future of the sport.

                I would also like to have the costs put in check as far as the promoters are concerned. F1 is asking in the area of $20-$40 mill per year in the Middle and Far East for the right to entertain an F1 race. This is part of the reason why the series is moving towards that direction and away from tracks like SPA (possibly).

                This is a must IMO... Traditional tracks are going to dump F1 - no different then what happened with CART years ago. I have to think that another series (not A1GP) will pick up these tracks and splinter the fan base and even perhaps some teams.
                Some people are like a Slinky .... Not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile
                when you shove them down the stairs.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by aportinga
                  This is a must IMO... Traditional tracks are going to dump F1 - no different then what happened with CART years ago. I have to think that another series (not A1GP) will pick up these tracks and splinter the fan base and even perhaps some teams.
                  The various sportscar (and bike) series will continue to use the 'traditional' tracks, just as they do here in the states.

                  Long live sportscar racing!


                  ...I just wish places like Hockenhiem could be 'put back togther' in it's proper layout.
                  Brian W Keske
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                  "The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite."
                  -- Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bkeske
                    The various sportscar (and bike) series will continue to use the 'traditional' tracks, just as they do here in the states.

                    Long live sportscar racing!


                    ...I just wish places like Hokenhiem could be 'put back togther' in it's proper layout.
                    :mad: You just had too mention Hockenheim :mad:
                    Some people are like a Slinky .... Not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile
                    when you shove them down the stairs.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jonovision_man
                      If I read you right...

                      The split saved F1!!!
                      And since everyone knows the split is Tony George's fault........Tony George saved F1!
                      "Is that my *** that I smell burning?" ... Helmet Stogie from "Death spasms of the Mabuchi"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Doc Austin
                        And since everyone knows the split is Tony George's fault........Tony George saved F1!
                        And everyone thought it was just a coincidence that the Michelin fiasco happenned at IMS...

                        jono

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                        • #13
                          NO ONE can do a split better than us IRL /Champ fans. We're the pros.
                          Get your head out of your past!!!

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                          • #14
                            The F1 split is but a mere shadow of it's former self.
                            "Is that my *** that I smell burning?" ... Helmet Stogie from "Death spasms of the Mabuchi"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tony Johns
                              The one good thing about the CART/IRL split... everyone sees how stupid it was in hindsight and what devastation it has brought the sport, and it helps them head off their own stupidity.
                              The formation of the IRL and the so called "split" was ten years overdue.

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