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    Elmira New York News - stargazette.com is the home page of Elmira New York with in depth and updated Elmira local news. Stay informed with both Elmira New York news as well as headlines and stories from around the world.


    WATKINS GLEN - Combined television ratings on ABC and ESPN are up 26 percent. Attendance has risen 17 percent. Merchandise sales are up 50 percent to 100 percent from race to race, and Internet traffic is up triple digits.

    And in rookie Danica Patrick, the Indy Racing League's IndyCar Series now has its poster driver, a recognizable name, a celebrity who's transcended the sport and become identifiable to race fans and non-race fans alike.

    By all accounts, it's been a huge season for the series, which made its first stop at Watkins Glen International this past weekend. Now, with one race left on the 2005 schedule, the question is: Where does IndyCar go from here?

    ...

    Ken Ungar, the vice president of business affairs for the Indy Racing League, points to attendance and television ratings as two big positives the series would like to see continue growing.

    "We're going to be doing more grass-roots fan building next year," Ungar said. "We had our first official fan club this year and already there are about 16,000 members. And you'll see an expansion of that next year, and a lot of other things that will expose Americans to the sport of IndyCar racing."
    Attendance at Texas was up 8,000 to 102,000 - although the Speedway did spend an extra $100,000 specifically to advertise Patrick's appearance.


    Since Indy, ticket sales at each stop on the circuit have been up - although, admittedly, IRL attendance is still sparse by NASCAR standards.

    TV ratings for the Bombardier Learjet 500 in Texas, aired on ESPN two weeks after Indy, set an IRL record on the cable network - another dubious distinction since the new record was a modest 1.0 rating (880,000 households).

    But it's a start in a league that has lost two-thirds of its race teams and 20 percent of its cars since 2002, and is currently losing engine makers faster than Formula One is losing fans.




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    Okay, that's a little old, but still...




    Finally, we remain encouraged by the growth of the IRL IndyCar Series. For 2006, we will promote six of the series' 14 events, and while it is still relatively new, we believe there is a long-term opportunity for growth in this open wheel series.



    The IRL's centerpiece is the Indianapolis 500. The Indianapolis Motor Speedway provides no attendance figures but uses the average of all media estimates, which last year came to 400,000. For its 15 races in 2002, the IRL said it averaged 67,782 spectators -- 44,053 excluding the Indy 500.


    Q. Steve, how is this first event shaping up as far as attendance goes?

    STEVE PAGE: We are on target to -- we're on a pace to hit all of the attendance targets we set for ourselves this year in terms of sponsors. Suite clients, hospitality clients, we are actually exceeding some of the targets that we have set. We're very pleased with the way the race is shaping up.

    Q. Specifically, which ones are you exceeding? What were those targets?

    STEVE PAGE: Well, I'm not going to get into any specific numbers. We are going to have more sponsor hospitality here than we had originally projected. We have totally sold out all of our hospitality suites. Our attendance is tracking right where we hoped it would be.

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    ... the Kansas IRL weekend and the Pepsi 400 weekend at Daytona also contributed to the increase
    I don't deny that there is atill an imbalance in the ROI, but I think they're working on that. I think there has been some improvement in the fan base, and I think the on-track product is exciting - which is not to say it can't be or won't be improved.

    I do however think most of whatever we wish the series could be or do is enhanced by growing the fan base - whether that's more teams, more driver opportunity, less gloom, or more sponsor support. I would encourage any who wish to see successful IndyCar racing to keep up your enthusiasm. It's good for the sport
    Last edited by Turn13; 12-03-2005, 11:26 AM.
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    A little old on that St. Pete info. But the averages 67,782 spectators -- 44,053 excluding the Indy 500 it said for 2002 are relatively the same as 2005
    (61,494 and 48,927) (<<< By my count, but since it is based on media estimates, its probably as accurate as the St. Pete numbers you posted)
    If you break a vase and then glue it back together and the vase loses it's value, you do not get credit for fixing it. You get the blame for damaging it....

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    • #3
      Yeah - I think it's probably increased significantly from 2004 to 2005, but that's my subjective impression based on the events I attended and watched on TV. And ISC acknowledged the growth as well.

      The statistics cited in the quote above was probably just for one point in the season, but the "Danica bump" is just one positive upturn that needs to be replicated - as skypigeon says, "we must have good publicity all season long".
      "Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone, is life"
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      • #4
        Yeah but they lost three races for next year. There I got that in before the usual suspects had a chance to. Although the two that were dropped at tracks that are still operational were about the lowest attended of the year.

        The average IRL attendance not including the 500 is an idiotic arguement since the league will never be without the 500. But otherwise if you're trying to attract a sponsor it's better to be able to factually report that umbers are up rather than down.

        No disrespect to those who are deeply involved in Downforce but I don't see a fan club (and not the first since the IRL Crew preceeded it) adding to the fan base no matter how big it gets. Adding to the enjoyment of the fan base sure but it isn't going to be drawing in fans.

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        • #5
          Perhaps someone can track items being sold on Ebay by IRL raceteams this off-season to help get a better finger on the financial pulse of the IRL these days. I'd suggest the Panther car that's listed right now for starters. I wonder how that's going and does anyone think there'll be more?

          It might help correlate with some of that optimistic data Turn13 was so nice to post for us.

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          • #6
            The CC teams can't sell their old cars; they have to race them next year.

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            • #7
              ...no reason to doubt that merchandise sales were up, there's getting to be alot of merchandise to be had,...heck if one has enough money they could get a whole team from this past season!
              Last edited by indyracefan; 12-04-2005, 04:14 AM.
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              • #8
                Someone should tell Panther how rosy things are

                "selling an IRL sponsorship to corporate America is like selling shotgun shells to a fisherman"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by elio
                  Someone should tell Panther how rosy things are

                  ...as well as Cheever (...and Red Bull, and Pennzoil, and Rock Star, and Phoenix, and Fontana, and Chevy, and Toyota, and....).
                  ​a bad day at the race track beats a good day at work

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                  • #10
                    Some people can't stand to let a positive thread go un-tarnished.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jim Wilke
                      The CC teams can't sell their old cars; they have to race them next year.
                      I wonder what the size of a CC team is compared to a IRL team. Did Jensen have to lay off 50 people when he shut down his CC operation.

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                      • #12
                        Just think if things are this bad for the IRL how bad are they for Champ Car. Drasticly lower TV ratings, Less Sponsorship, No TV package, Pacific Rim races fell into the Pacific Rim.

                        I am so glad there is a Champ Car. No matter what goes wrong with the IRL it is not as bad as Champ Car.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by elio
                          Someone should tell Panther how rosy things are

                          "selling an IRL sponsorship to corporate America is like selling shotgun shells to a fisherman"
                          http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/indycar/21046/

                          So one can read the quote above in context, and realize no one from Panther actually said that...
                          "I didn't hear a single comment about airboxes, "carbashians", or how terrible the car looked. I did see dozens and dozens of little kids in awe of the speed and how cool the cars looked. We should learn from our children."
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by OWNUT
                            I am so glad there is a Champ Car. No matter what goes wrong with the IRL it is not as bad as Champ Car.
                            That's cruel in a comforting sort of way, but don't get used to it going so badly for them. If they can grid 20 of the new champcars in 2007, that will get them out of the woods.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by OWNUT
                              Just think if things are this bad for the IRL how bad are they for Champ Car. Drasticly lower TV ratings, Less Sponsorship, No TV package, Pacific Rim races fell into the Pacific Rim.

                              I am so glad there is a Champ Car. No matter what goes wrong with the IRL it is not as bad as Champ Car.

                              Think again.

                              Champcar is buying more network TV time.
                              Champcar has a chassis and engine package with a price tag for 2007 significantly lower than the IRL.
                              Champcar has a new affordable ladder series that's drawing a great deal of interest.
                              Champcar has a core group of venues.
                              Champcar teams get the same motor, no special juiced engines allowed. Your results are completely dependant on your commitment to win, no because I'm running an engine this week with special parts from the manufacturer.

                              If I'm a team owner I can now figure a 2007 budget of running a competitive Champcar effort. I can't if I'm an IRL owner because the next gen engine specs STILL haven't been released by the series. According to BB it's going to be cheaper but by exactly how much? He's talking 3 tiers of cost but we're left to speculate what one tier over the other is going to get you.

                              Without subsidy money, teams have to go wherever they can get the most bang for the buck. If I can run a competitive program in CCWS for less money than the IRL and still show enough ROI there vs. the IRL to a sponsor then that's where I'll go.

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