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  • 2005 CCWS Attendance

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    VENUE		3-DAY		AVG		RACE DAY	AVG
    LONG BEACH	170000		170000		100000		100000
    MONTERREY	190000		180000		111000		105500
    MILWAUKEE	26012		128670		26012		79004
    PORTLAND	64382		112598		40000		69253
    CLEVELAND	89788		108036		35000		62402
    TORONTO		160315		116749		71433		63908
    EDMONTON	200052		128649		78080		65932
    SAN JOSE	156757		132163		62371		65487
    DENVER		148511		133979		70000		65988
    MONTREAL	93755		129957		36204		63010
    VEGAS		71000		124597		71000		63736
    SURFERS		316459		140585		105297		67199
    MEXICO CITY	271559		150660		159634		74310
    				
    				
    				
    				
    TOTAL		1958590				966031
    The AVG column is a running average.
    The numbers are what I could find published.
    The total shown here is 3372 less than what Champ Car had on their website. (I don't know which of the estimated totals the 3372 goes to)

    As for total season race day totals, CCWS and IRL were relatively close (966K vs. 983K).
    If you break a vase and then glue it back together and the vase loses it's value, you do not get credit for fixing it. You get the blame for damaging it....

  • #2
    Not to hijack the thread here, but there is a poll at another website asking how many CC races you attended in 2005. If you add them all up it comes to about 350. In other words, .00001 % of the people that attend CC races post on their #1 fanbase site. I wonder if KK realizes this.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Chitownfan
      Not to hijack the thread here, but there is a poll at another website asking how many CC races you attended in 2005. If you add them all up it comes to about 350. In other words, .00001 % of the people that attend CC races post on their #1 fanbase site. I wonder if KK realizes this.
      You got your math wrong and not every member of any forum responds to all polls. If you use Rommey's total attendance numbers of CC=966K and IRL=983K and figure in the total members of each forum, you will see the true percentage of the fans at each forum relative to total attendance figures.

      CW - 2349 members/966,000 = .24%
      TF - 5254 members/983,000 = .53%

      It's only a tiny fraction of the attendance, but each forum is important since it represents the hardcore fan base of each series that cares to post online. Many fans don't join forums for a number of reasons.

      Just like the Nielsen ratings, it's only a tiny fraction that are actually counted. Then they use some formula to calculate the total viewers, which I think is suspect...... How many persons do you really know who are a "Nielsen Family"? I have only known 1 family and that was over 20 years ago and they have since moved long ago. Haven't meet anyone else since then.
      Last edited by CARacer; 11-21-2005, 12:15 AM.

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      • #4
        Years ago we used to have a Nielsen family living next door to us. That was actually their last name, Nielsen. Funny thing was, they didn't own a TV.
        "I would really like to go to NASCAR. I really enjoy NASCAR and if I could be there in a couple of years that's where I'd want to be." - Jeff Gordon (after testing a Formula Super Vee)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CARacer
          You got your math wrong and not every member of any forum responds to all polls. If you use Rommey's total attendance numbers of CC=966K and IRL=983K and figure in the total members of each forum, you will see the true percentage of the fans at each forum relative to total attendance figures.

          CW - 2349 members/966,000 = .24%
          TF - 5254 members/983,000 = .53%

          It's only a tiny fraction of the attendance, but each forum is important since it represents the hardcore fan base of each series that cares to post online. Many fans don't join forums for a number of reasons.

          Just like the Nielsen ratings, it's only a tiny fraction that are actually counted. Then they use some formula to calculate the total viewers, which I think is suspect...... How many persons do you really know who are a "Nielsen Family"? I have only known 1 family and that was over 20 years ago and they have since moved long ago. Haven't meet anyone else since then.
          The reason you don't know any is that they sign a confidentiality agreement saying they can't tell anyone they were a Neilson family.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rommey
            Code:
            VENUE		3-DAY		AVG		RACE DAY	AVG
            LONG BEACH	170000		170000		100000		100000
            MONTERREY	190000		180000		111000		105500
            MILWAUKEE	26012		128670		26012		79004
            PORTLAND	64382		112598		40000		69253
            CLEVELAND	89788		108036		35000		62402
            TORONTO		160315		116749		71433		63908
            EDMONTON	200052		128649		78080		65932
            SAN JOSE	156757		132163		62371		65487
            DENVER		148511		133979		70000		65988
            MONTREAL	93755		129957		36204		63010
            VEGAS		71000		124597		71000		63736
            SURFERS		316459		140585		105297		67199
            MEXICO CITY	271559		150660		159634		74310
            				
            				
            				
            				
            TOTAL		1958590				966031
            The AVG column is a running average.
            The numbers are what I could find published.
            The total shown here is 3372 less than what Champ Car had on their website. (I don't know which of the estimated totals the 3372 goes to)

            As for total season race day totals, CCWS and IRL were relatively close (966K vs. 983K).

            Well... Vegas is a puff. My own two eyes know there weren't that many for the CC race.

            But a season ending attendance pissing contest is always entertaining.
            Man to Man is so unjust... there's no Man you can Trust.

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            • #7
              Let us know when one starts.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Brickman
                Well... Vegas is a puff. My own two eyes know there weren't that many for the CC race.
                Don't dare do that. Thinking for yourself. Believing what you see and know, rather than what you are told.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CARacer
                  CW - 2349 members/966,000 = .24%
                  TF - 5254 members/983,000 = .53%
                  Thats not totally accurate. CW has banned 1/3 of all people.
                  "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." - Mark Twain

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                  • #10
                    As a CCWS fan, I've got to admit that there are some serious whoppers in that list.
                    Last edited by SLKRR; 11-21-2005, 07:38 AM. Reason: spelling
                    "Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose." --- Ayrton Senna

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                    • #11
                      71,000 at Vegas..........



                      where's the camera?? where's the camera??
                      the man in expensive shoes

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                      • #12
                        Those numbers are completely bogus. I saw some photo's posted by a CCF member that was at the Mexico race all three days, the place was pretty deserted on Friday and Saturday. No way those numbers hold up, the others are probably equally way off the mark.
                        Trump, he's one of the nicest, most decent human beings possibly ever to walk the planet..

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CARacer
                          You got your math wrong and not every member of any forum responds to all polls. If you use Rommey's total attendance numbers of CC=966K and IRL=983K and figure in the total members of each forum, you will see the true percentage of the fans at each forum relative to total attendance figures.

                          CW - 2349 members/966,000 = .24%
                          TF - 5254 members/983,000 = .53%

                          It's only a tiny fraction of the attendance, but each forum is important since it represents the hardcore fan base of each series that cares to post online. Many fans don't join forums for a number of reasons.

                          Just like the Nielsen ratings, it's only a tiny fraction that are actually counted. Then they use some formula to calculate the total viewers, which I think is suspect...... How many persons do you really know who are a "Nielsen Family"? I have only known 1 family and that was over 20 years ago and they have since moved long ago. Haven't meet anyone else since then.
                          All right, I went back and tallied it up. Approx. 50% of the people replying to the thread said they didn't attend a race this year. If we use that as the base, 50% of 2349=1174.5. Now, 1174.5 into 966,000 is .0012158. My point is that KK took the words of .001% of the fans as a way to go with the series. Not really a fair representation of the "fan."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Chitownfan
                            All right, I went back and tallied it up. Approx. 50% of the people replying to the thread said they didn't attend a race this year. If we use that as the base, 50% of 2349=1174.5. Now, 1174.5 into 966,000 is .0012158. My point is that KK took the words of .001% of the fans as a way to go with the series. Not really a fair representation of the "fan."

                            I went to 4

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ken
                              I went to 4
                              I went to 4(IRL) as well this year. We ARE the true fans!

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