Crazy ideas. Never work.

[Brantoc]

Reunified NAOWRS called “something catchy that doesn’t necessarily have Indy in the name”

Three Amigo’s are two (there choice which two) of the 10 people on the board, but have no special powers, other than the board vote. TG is head of IMS, and stays there, but other than a vote on the board, has no other real powers. Most of the rest of the board is made up of non-team owners who are in some form of management within the league. (Saftey, Standards, Marketing, etc.) New leader of the series who has no stake in either camp, and is a long term fan of open wheel racing. (gonna be hard to find)

Standardized on a spec chassis similar to the new Panoz chassis Champ Car has, but allow teams to get them from any number of manufacturers. Car makers come in with a Chassis maker, and Engine maker. Honda-Dallaria-Honda, Toyota-Panoz-Ilmar, Ford-Lola-Cosworth, etc. This will allow for slightly different, tho still spec, looks to different manufacturers, and allow for more true ‘development’ within the league, which is one thing Honda, and Toyota want. Some of the companies with more budget (Honda?) may even elect to make there own Chassis as well as engine, and not rely on a company like Dallaria.

Drop MIPS, and move Atlantics to the primary road track support league at 10 of the 22 races +2-3 with partner series. Partner with someone like Rolex Sportscar, or ALMS also at many of the events. Get with Honda, and Toyota SCION, and have tuner/show competitions bundled with series races, bringing the young, new racing crowd to the tracks. Bring up a new, Prototype like spec chassis class with big engines (4L, or something) as an Oval support league.

Unified schedule with 22 races in 8 months (2nd week in March to 2nd week in October) keeping Surfers Paradise, Toronto, and Mexico City. Dropping Sears point, San Jose, Edmonton, Korea, and a few others.

Totally new points system than what either series has. Keep the IRL’s Road/Street qualifying.

I’m still sick, so that’s all the mental strain I can put my brain through.

[Indy Fan500]

send this to the people in charge. I think its a good idea

[Brantoc]

You acually think TG or KK would listen to a crazy, non-team owner millionaire, fan?

[Brantoc]

It would never work due in no small part to several CC teams not wanting to race any ovals. They are scared of them, and think ovals are just unsafe. They crowd it with language that would make you think IRL cars are the reason, but it’s not. That’s just a smokescreen to hide their fear, of the real danger associated with putting yourself on the line at those speeds.

It will never work in no small part due to a seriously large section of the IRL hierarchy who are purely oval elitists. They don’t feel anything other than ovals should be raced in the brickyard, and thus that is all there is in racing, everything else is just driving fast.


Everyone in power is either an elitists admittedly, or hiding fear of the wall.

[ptistheboss]

I think the easiest issue is picking tracks. Ovals vs. Road/Street has nothing to do with it at this point.

[Brantoc]

Here's the reason NOW is the time to act.

FACT – NASCAR has had problems that have caused races to go exceedingly long, 5:30+ in some cases. Even a friend of mine at work, who has a custom painted truck with Dale Jr's number on his door, and more stickers on it, than you can shake a stick at, says NASCAR has gotten boring.

FACT – NASCAR is talking about limiting owners to only two or three Cup cars a year to keep a few from effectively ‘owning’ the sport. This will cause owners to choose sponsors, and drivers. The rest will look for new teams(racing styles?).

FACT – Thanks in large part to DP, the IRL is growing at a breakneck clip.

FACT – Coming together now, while the league is hot will give more value to the different teams sponsors for next year, and bring back many others who have left, in large or small part due to the split (Molson, rumored Toyota, etc)

FACT – Staying split up simply, financially doesn’t make long term since. TODAY the IRL is doing well, 5 years ago it wasn’t. 5 years from now it may not. Today CCWS is losing money, 5 years from now it may not be, in 10 it may again. Lets say, each side has a couple Billion to blow, and neither side will ever go bankrupt again. Even if no one is in the stands!

FACT – The heads of each league have expended much money, time (broadcast and personal), and effort to degrade the other, personally. And the only result is fewer fans of either, and a reduction of sponsorships.

FACT – If they came together today, there would a media circus like mad talking about it from now till the start of the new series.

No one on either side is a child, so build a bridge and get over it. Come together now, equally, and seperately without maintaining a stranglehold on the series, for either side. Do it for your wallet. Do it for the teams, Do it for the FANS! JUST DO IT

I don't care if it's TG, KK, or Your Momma keeping the leagues apart, they need to get over themselves.

EDIT - Sorry I got a little emotional, but it's something I feel strongly about. ( and I'm on meds)

[Ken]

FACT – Thanks in large part to DP, the IRL is growing at a breakneck clip.

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I'm sorry...really i'm all for figuring out a way to help the two sides get back together.....or race in some common events...or even just stop bickerin'...

but here is a fact...the IRL opened at 0.6 and closed the season at 0.6.....infomercial tv ratings are not growth no matter how it's spun.....and so far from 'breakneck' it's laughable...

serios problems should be looked at seriosly

[Cygni]

They are scared of them, and think ovals are just unsafe. They crowd it with language that would make you think IRL cars are the reason, but it’s not. That’s just a smokescreen to hide their fear, of the real danger associated with putting yourself on the line at those speeds.

Uhhh yea dude. Teams like Forsythe racing and Newman Haas are just quivering in fear of ovals, except they ran them long before any of the original IRL teams. Or Conquest, who used to run in an all oval series. Or PKVR, owned partly by a guy who was a dominant 500mile racer.

FACT – Thanks in large part to DP, the IRL is growing at a breakneck clip.

If your neck breaks turning your head to the left to look at the clock, then maybe.

Really, we all know one series would be better. There just isnt a way to make those in charge do it. Pretty much everyone with any power... sponsors, mfts, team owners, drivers, officials... has tried, but both sides would rather be 6 year old girls then act like acutal business men and racefans.

Sometimes I hope the teams from both series just pack up one day at the LAST second and start their own series, nukeing both the IRL and CCWS. At least that would end the split for good.

[Brantoc]

Really, we all know one series would be better. There just isnt a way to make those in charge do it. Pretty much everyone with any power... sponsors, mfts, team owners, drivers, officials... has tried, but both sides would rather be 6 year old girls then act like acutal business men and racefans.

Sometimes I hope the teams from both series just pack up one day at the LAST second and start their own series, nukeing both the IRL and CCWS. At least that would end the split for good.

A-men.

How did six year old girls get in charge to begin with?

[Brantoc]

but here is a fact...the IRL opened at 0.6 and closed the season at 0.6.....infomercial tv ratings are not growth no matter how it's spun.....and so far from 'breakneck' it's laughable...

IRL RATINGS BY NETWORK
NET '05 AVG. (NO. OF RACES) '04 AVG. (NO. OF RACES) %+/-
ABC 2.0 (7) 1.20 (10) 53.8%
ESPN 0.6 (9) 0.40 (4) 50.0%
ESPN2 0.4 (1) 0.20 (2) 100.0%

Going from 2 people watching to 4 (metaphoicaly) is growth. And remember, even at 0.4, thats 0.3 more than equal CC race on Speed.

It just erks me to no end, that so many teams want to reunify, so many drivers, so many sponcers, you KNOW ABC wants it, Honda, Toyota, Ford, Molson, etc have either behind the scene or publicly pushed for it.

I agree with Cygni. The leadership are all acting like 6yo girls. Each think the other has kooties, and neither will share there dolls.