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    Who will be the next independent CC promoter to bail?
    27
    Denver
    40.74%
    11
    Surfers
    14.81%
    4
    Montreal
    29.63%
    8
    San Jose
    14.81%
    4

    The poll is expired.

    "The lunatic fringes on both sides need to be written off." -- stnky pete

  • #2
    What's the point of this thread? Appears to be purposely inflammatory.

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    • #3
      Where's the "Wishful thinking for B/S CCWS-bashers" option?

      I agree with Jono.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by indycool
        Who will be the next independent CC promoter to bail?
        My guess is the Denver folks. I was there this year, and it had about 1/4 as many people attending on Friday as the published reports. I think there were as many people attending the boxing as attending the race. If the sanctioning fee goes up, I think the promotor goes out.
        ...Always follow the money

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        • #5
          The point is, two of the longest-standing races in CC (albeit Dover was a new promoter) have sold their rights back to CC, most probably under threat of switching to IRL whether the threat was real or not, to extract a pretty penny and get out of it. Whether it's inflammatory or not, it's reality, and it'd be naive to think that others who are spending a lot of money with a tough street racing nut to crack aren't at least thinking about following the lead of two of the biggest promoters on the schedule.
          "The lunatic fringes on both sides need to be written off." -- stnky pete

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          • #6
            Yeah, many people see things as inflamatory. We could also talk about which IRL location will go. My take is Sonoma could be a victim by 2008, since that is when the contract renews, and the left coast is pretty fickle about attending anything except Long Beach.
            ...Always follow the money

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            • #7
              Originally posted by indycool
              ... it'd be naive to think that others who are spending a lot of money with a tough street racing nut to crack aren't at least thinking about following the lead of two of the biggest promoters on the schedule.
              Care to elaborate for dummies like me?

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              • #8
                I see your points, jono and JSR. But is it more inflammatory than this? http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67330
                "Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone, is life"
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                • #9
                  Sure, Ruok. The Long Beach contract was up. The race lost $1.4 million in April according to NSSN. Dover had already dumped St. Pete and Denver. It had a proposal to SANCTION Long Beach from the IRL. It was in a position to dictate terms and it did it.

                  Molson slashed ticket prices for Toronto. Attendance was still off just a touch. The merger with Coors clouds the issue a bit. But for whatever reason, taking the risk of promotion wasn't worth it to Molson any more. So, it bailed.

                  Now, after two of CC's biggest races' promoters have bailed and KK & Co. (Aquarium Assets or whatever) bought 'em up, other independent promoters on their schedule don't have their heads in the sand and will be noticing this. And on the business side, IMO, they'll test the waters to cut a better deal or do the same thing.

                  If these races were raging successes to Dover and Molson, they would've kept 'em. They cashed out.
                  "The lunatic fringes on both sides need to be written off." -- stnky pete

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Turn13
                    I see your points, jono and JSR. But is it more inflammatory than this? http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67330
                    Slightly. "Who's next?" implies it's a given that someone will be next.

                    jono

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jonovision_man
                      Slightly. "Who's next?" implies it's a given that someone will be next.

                      jono
                      Only if you beleive the answer No One does not apply, jo.
                      ...Always follow the money

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by irloyal
                        Only if you beleive the answer No One does not apply, jo.
                        That's not an option in the poll.

                        jono

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                        • #13
                          Neither was Sonoma.
                          ...Always follow the money

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jonovision_man
                            Slightly. "Who's next?" implies it's a given that someone will be next.

                            jono
                            this point was brought up when OWRS (Aquairum Assests) bought LB....that it would set a presidence and other venues would follow suite..........many here assured the group that would not happen.......well it did and it's highly probable it will happen again (and again).........
                            the man in expensive shoes

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                            • #15
                              If these races were raging successes to Dover and Molson, they would've kept 'em.
                              No, it has also been reported that Molson will not seek to promote a NASCAR race in Canada (might sign on as title sponsor, but not promote). A NASCAR race seems to be a license to print money. The Coors-Molson merger has resulted in a dictum from the executive powers that Molson will leave the sports promotion business, period.


                              It had a proposal to SANCTION Long Beach from the IRL.
                              '

                              Wish you guys would make up your mind on this one. Who was gonna be the promoter (not Dover)?
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