Red Bull Team Cheever Budget

[mnkywrch]

Originally posted by 220mph
mnky

Please refewrence the bottom line in the chart above for each Cheever and Scheckter. Who was leading, of the two, in the points, and by a significant margin? Now again, who was beating whom?

Racing is about more than speed.

OK, let's compare Rice to Cheever. Keep in mind Eddie has VASTLY more experience in open wheeled cars than Buddy - I think he's been driving open wheel cars longer than Buddy has been alive.

Michigan
Rice - Start 2, Finish 2, should have won. Led 15 laps. Keep in mind, this was his first IRL start.
Cheever - Start 3, crashed out in a one car accident, finished 22nd. Never contended.

Kentucky
Rice: Start 6, Finish 12
Cheever: Start 7, Finish 11

Gateway
Rice: Start 15, Finish 4
Cheever: Start 18, Finish 10 - two laps down

Chicago:
Rice: Start 2, Finish 9. Led 22 laps
Cheever: Start 6, Finish 5.

Texas 2:
Rice: Start 4, Finish 6.
Cheever: Start 5, Finish 8 - one lap down.

Rice: Led 37 laps in first five IRL starts. Outqualified Eddie in all five races. Finished on lead lap in all five races.
Cheever: Led 0 laps and finished ahead of Buddy in two out of five races. Only finished two races on lead lap.

I don't care if you're still involved with the team - Eddie's best days are behind him, and if you paired him with Buddy Rice, he wouldn't even be the best driver on his own team. Last season proved this.

Doesn't sound pretty, but it's the truth.

I mean, would you rather be teaching an old guy to be fast or a young guy to stop wrecking?

Despite his record of hitting everything but the lottery, Scheckter has a ride for 2003.

I don't think people are beating down Eddie's door to get him to drive for them. I don't think Eddie would even have a ride if he wasn't the car owner.

I recall the story I was told about Eddie being upset that Scheckter was faster than he was. He had the crew put Tomas' setup on his car - and promptly went SLOWER with Tomas' setup than he was going with his own.

[220mph]

mnky

Please refewrence the bottom line in the chart above for each Cheever and Scheckter. Who was leading, of the two, in the points, and by a significant margin? Now again, who was beating whom?

Racing is about more than speed.

[mnkywrch]

Originally posted by BigWheelHawaii
Does this theorem hold true for that old potty mouth Paul Newman also ?

IIRC, nowadays, Paul's racing SCCA guys in Trans-Am spec equipment. Does he race anyone else on a similar budget any more, and how does he stack up to them?

Very few drivers get better as they age... ya think Mario or AJ were as good the last ten years of their careers as they were in the first ten years? Wiser and smarter, sure. But that doesn't always cover for the loss of reflexes - not forever.

[$noopy]

Originally posted by wippersnapper
Ed Cheever Jr. tore up his share of equipment last year also.

Yes, sir, but he wouldn't have wrecked as much if Sheckter wasn't around. Here he comes again.

[BigWheelHawaii]

Originally posted by mnkywrch
Cheever should quit.

He was getting beat by both Rice & Scheckter last season.

No shame in being too old to drive. Plenty of shame in insisting to drive when you can't get it done.

Aloha Monkey,,,


Does this theorem hold true for that old potty mouth Paul Newman also ?

Just Wondering,,,,

[trow]

mohrecrap, yur phunny measter!

[BlueStang]

Originally posted by stan
Wonders everyday I agree with Mkywrch today!

That sort of rhymes.

[stan]

Wonders everyday I agree with Mkywrch today!

[mnkywrch]

Cheever should quit.

He was getting beat by both Rice & Scheckter last season.

No shame in being too old to drive. Plenty of shame in insisting to drive when you can't get it done.

[Jimbo7]

Me thinks Cheever is getting withdraws from not racing. He needs to get back in the saddle. He's in good shape. He was asked by ABC if he was going to race for the last three races of the season, and he said he would like too, but his primary focus was on Buddy Rice. I think his primary focus should be with himself getting back in the car by at least California. He's got unfinished business there...

[richie]

I thought Scheckter hit the wall while leading the Kansas race. Or was it because of a flat tire?

[220mph]

Originally posted by wippersnapper
Ed Cheever Jr. tore up his share of equipment last year also.

You'll have to look up the rest

[Truth Detector]

Originally posted by wippersnapper
Ed Cheever Jr. tore up his share of equipment last year also.

Cheever is an F1 veteran who actually owned the cars and crashed less than Wreckter.

No comparison.

[wippersnapper]

Originally posted by Truth Detector
I would imagine that all of last year's and most of this year's budget went into replacing chassis (what's plural for chassis???) for Hannibal Scheckter.

Ed Cheever Jr. tore up his share of equipment last year also.

[rrrr]

Originally posted by Truth Detector
(what's plural for chassis???)

I think it's chasseye.