It didn't work the first time-let's try it again

[Jim Wilke]

How were they to know what Tony George was really after?

Maybe they should have been listening instead of talking.

[Cygni]

Originally posted by Jim Wilke
Maybe they should have been listening instead of talking.

I doubt Tony ever came out and said, "I just want control of American Open-Wheel, at any cost." I think someone would have listened if he said that, and then quickly ran him out of town.

[slinger]

Originally posted by Cygni
I doubt Tony ever came out and said, "I just want control of American Open-Wheel, at any cost." I think someone would have listened if he said that, and then quickly ran him out of town.

We have been hearing this hogwash from CARTisans for a long time. It's your opinion and nothing more. We all know what opinions are like. Now if you have some solid facts, furnish a link. Otherwise, IT'S ONLY YOUR OPINION!!!

[Cygni]

Do you have any proof that that WASNT his goal? Nope. So its your opinion too. Which is fine with me. This is a forum... a place to voice opinions.

[slinger]

Originally posted by Cygni
Do you have any proof that that WASNT his goal? Nope. So its your opinion too. Which is fine with me. This is a forum... a place to voice opinions.

I see you flunked Logic 101. You can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on you.

If it's your opinion, say so.

[Mackie]

CART already had a series run and owned by the owners before they went public, it never worked then, why would it work now? In fact, it is because the animals always ran the zoo that they are in this mess now. They are the ones that ignored, laughed at Tony George behind his back and underestimated the power of IMS/Indy 500 and TG that they are in this mess.

JoeBob, you are reaching, Bernie was always a smoke screen.

[SPM]

Originally posted by indycool
SPM, I'd like to see that if you happen to find it....that would put an end to those rumors....

Here's where I saw it:

LINK

Asked whether he would be interested in a takeover of a championship that has suffered several high-profile defections to the rival Indy Racing League (IRL) series of late, Ecclestone told Reuters: "Probably not. Let's see."

[Jack Harrington]

jZink: Those idiots that are in the IRL now, do have at least one thing going for them. Their checks don't bounce!

[indycool]

Thanx, SPM.....he left the door ajar a touch, but that should've told everyone where Bernie was on this deal......some of his other statements in that link from last year said exactly what others have been saying about this supposed or proposed deal....to get what he wanted, he didn't need to take over CART and didn't need to bother.

[jjjanos]

Originally posted by slinger
We have been hearing this hogwash from CARTisans for a long time. It's your opinion and nothing more. We all know what opinions are like. Now if you have some solid facts, furnish a link. Otherwise, IT'S ONLY YOUR OPINION!!!

As I recall, in the press release announcing the formation of the IRL, the stated purpose was to control the type of cars that race in the 500. Now toss in that every public proposal floated by Mr. George called for defacto complete control of Champ Car racing to rest with him. Seems to me that there is strong support for the case that Mr. George didn't want anyone else to have a voice.

[indycool]

jjj, let's turn it around.....did CART want anyone else to have a voice?

[jjjanos]

Originally posted by indycool
jjj, let's turn it around.....did CART want anyone else to have a voice?

Why no.... but that wasn't the question
Then again, they had done an excellent job of growing their sport after the benign neglect of the Hulman-USAC years when the track owners called the shots. If you were running CART, would you have allowed that crowd back into the tent?

[indycool]

Since we're talking about the Indianapolis 500, held at a national historic landmark since 1911 with more than 350,000 people attending annually, etc., etc., yes. We're not talking about the third try after two failures at a St. Petersburg Grand Prix.