Nascar article sounds like big trouble ahead for them...

[kpbruins]

http://www.athlonsports.com/racing/19801/selling-nascar

Obviously, they aren't going out of business this decade, but reading this article I am reminded of a book by Malcom Caldwell called "Tipping Point". If the exit of teams and sponsors pick up steam...watch out, it may be too much to stop and a house of cards could come down. If Gordon retires, Stewart retires...etc I didn't realize there was so much angst on their side of the fence.

I just hope :izod2 is able to capitalize on the moment and sway sponsors for a tenth of what they are spending in the cabs.

[KevMcNJ]

Getting NASCAR teams to go on a diet and get away from $20M per car budgets wouldnt exactly be a bad thing

If they wont do it voluntarily, a bad economy and a weakend brand will force them to

Just like they never seem to drop below 42 cars week in and week out, if a few mega teams disappear or merge a few smaller one or two car teams will see an opening and fill those spots. Of course mgmt will need to do something to prevent 20 teams from showing up on Friday and pulling in on lap 5 on Sunday

Drivers wont be seeing the Super Lotto sized salaries on those teams I bet but they will still have the nice houses and we still wont be seeing them flying with us in the back of the jet flying to XYZ speedway

[Grizzlor]

That's really the thing, their budgets are insane and they run too many races.

[Dmanus]

My mistake, I thought this was 'rev-ed's IZOD IdyCar Forum'...

No, you are in the correct forum.
It is always 'rev-ed's IZOD IdyCar Forum' news when the competition is on the verge of stumbling.

[Turn13]

If the exit of teams and sponsors pick up steam...watch out, it may be too much to stop and a house of cards could come down.

Uhh, you talking about HVM here? No? But you could be, huh?

[cbreez99]

http://www.athlonsports.com/racing/19801/selling-nascar

a house of cards could come down.

All of these years and I never realized NASCAR was just a house of cards. They have been around how long? Read your history books, son...

[hdolan]

The idea that what's bad for one series is good for another is, in my opinion, without merit...series rise and fall on their own abilities/inabilities to connect with the public...

[Turn13]

"This is quite true"

[kpbruins]

All of these years and I never realized NASCAR was just a house of cards. They have been around how long? Read your history books, son...

Yeah, Openwheel has been around 100 years son, good thing we have never stumbled like a house of cards. Dad.

[millrace]

I've never bought into the Nascar hype. The product has never been as good as other forms of racing. And there's only so long you can make a circus run before most people realize its a circus- heck most fans of Indycar and F1 realized this long ago. I will laugh with glee if that juggernaut crumbles.

Unlike the NFL, MLB, and the NBA, Nascar has not appealed to a broad demographic (much like hockey- but I like hockey).

[KevMcNJ]

Unlike the NFL, MLB, and the NBA, Nascar has not appealed to a broad demographic (much like hockey- but I like hockey).

Hockey tried to appeal to a broader audience once already.

Remember the glowing puck era?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpLoLObEFQY&p=6FC36A3C12785F6D&playnext=1&index=40

Horrendous. I dont think it survived one full season.

But NHL mgmt realized they made a large mistake and went back to what worked and what the old fans wanted

Small incremental changes for them. Funny enough the old fans seem to like the changes that NHL tries like the 2 line pass and calling more holding penalties.

they didnt go nuts with crazy rule changes like making the nets 5' X 7' or something equally revolutonary that the fans might think of as gimmicky

[ndcrs]

nascar teams wanta cut costs? maybe they don't need 18 cars for every driver. a recent racer mag photo showed just that, 18 in a row with the same number on the side.

[mdkiel]

nascar teams wanta cut costs? maybe they don't need 18 cars for every driver. a recent racer mag photo showed just that, 18 in a row with the same number on the side.

That's kinda funny. I thought the spec nature of the COT was supposed to cut down on that sort of thing. Maybe they could cut out the armada of color coordinated golf carts and scooters and the mobile swimming pools for the multi million dollar motor coaches and the LEAR jets....I'm just sayin'....

[MoparsRule]

nascar teams wanta cut costs? maybe they don't need 18 cars for every driver. a recent racer mag photo showed just that, 18 in a row with the same number on the side.

Brain France saw to it that the COTurd fixed that.

Oh, wait a minute... nevermind.

[TimmyZ1]

I don't think NASCAR will completely implode and go away but I am looking forward to the book or case study in a few year on how NASCAR has gone from the top of the mountain top a few years ago to possibly falling farther than they are now. The Nascar familiy itself won't let any of there secrets out but they''ve done a ton of business transactions over the years with people who aren't as tight-lipped themselves. Business men and women aren't going to pizz off the golden goose when the money is flowing but when things start to go south all those nasty behind the scenes stories start to come out.