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  • Nascar article sounds like big trouble ahead for them...

    http://www.athlonsports.com/racing/19801/selling-nascar

    Obviously, they aren't going out of business this decade, but reading this article I am reminded of a book by Malcom Caldwell called "Tipping Point". If the exit of teams and sponsors pick up steam...watch out, it may be too much to stop and a house of cards could come down. If Gordon retires, Stewart retires...etc I didn't realize there was so much angst on their side of the fence.

    I just hope :izod2 is able to capitalize on the moment and sway sponsors for a tenth of what they are spending in the cabs.
    Bernard - The most interesting man alive. If he punched you in the face, you would thank him. ;) Stay thirsty my friends!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j-Hg...%2Bdiv-1r-3-HM

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    Getting NASCAR teams to go on a diet and get away from $20M per car budgets wouldnt exactly be a bad thing

    If they wont do it voluntarily, a bad economy and a weakend brand will force them to

    Just like they never seem to drop below 42 cars week in and week out, if a few mega teams disappear or merge a few smaller one or two car teams will see an opening and fill those spots. Of course mgmt will need to do something to prevent 20 teams from showing up on Friday and pulling in on lap 5 on Sunday

    Drivers wont be seeing the Super Lotto sized salaries on those teams I bet but they will still have the nice houses and we still wont be seeing them flying with us in the back of the jet flying to XYZ speedway
    Live like Dave

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    • #3
      That's really the thing, their budgets are insane and they run too many races.
      "If your car was a dog, then you had to figure it out and test your own limits. And we didn't go to a wind tunnel – we did it in the first turn at Indianapolis."

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      • #4
        Originally posted by hdolan
        My mistake, I thought this was 'rev-ed's IZOD IdyCar Forum'...
        No, you are in the correct forum.
        It is always 'rev-ed's IZOD IdyCar Forum' news when the competition is on the verge of stumbling.
        Dale Manus

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kpbruins View Post
          If the exit of teams and sponsors pick up steam...watch out, it may be too much to stop and a house of cards could come down.
          Uhh, you talking about HVM here? No? But you could be, huh?
          Last edited by Sybil D. Sobydianz; 09-25-2010, 01:33 PM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by kpbruins View Post
            All of these years and I never realized NASCAR was just a house of cards. They have been around how long? Read your history books, son...

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            • #7
              The idea that what's bad for one series is good for another is, in my opinion, without merit...series rise and fall on their own abilities/inabilities to connect with the public...

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              • #8
                "This is quite true"
                "Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone, is life"
                ~ Sanskrit poem attributed to Kalidasa, "Salutation to the Dawn"


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cbreez99 View Post
                  All of these years and I never realized NASCAR was just a house of cards. They have been around how long? Read your history books, son...
                  Yeah, Openwheel has been around 100 years son, good thing we have never stumbled like a house of cards. Dad.
                  Bernard - The most interesting man alive. If he punched you in the face, you would thank him. ;) Stay thirsty my friends!
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j-Hg...%2Bdiv-1r-3-HM

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                  • #10
                    I've never bought into the Nascar hype. The product has never been as good as other forms of racing. And there's only so long you can make a circus run before most people realize its a circus- heck most fans of Indycar and F1 realized this long ago. I will laugh with glee if that juggernaut crumbles.

                    Unlike the NFL, MLB, and the NBA, Nascar has not appealed to a broad demographic (much like hockey- but I like hockey).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by millrace View Post
                      Unlike the NFL, MLB, and the NBA, Nascar has not appealed to a broad demographic (much like hockey- but I like hockey).
                      Hockey tried to appeal to a broader audience once already.

                      Remember the glowing puck era?
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpLoL...ext=1&index=40

                      Horrendous. I dont think it survived one full season.

                      But NHL mgmt realized they made a large mistake and went back to what worked and what the old fans wanted

                      Small incremental changes for them. Funny enough the old fans seem to like the changes that NHL tries like the 2 line pass and calling more holding penalties.

                      they didnt go nuts with crazy rule changes like making the nets 5' X 7' or something equally revolutonary that the fans might think of as gimmicky
                      Last edited by KevMcNJ; 09-26-2010, 03:45 PM.
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                      • #12
                        nascar teams wanta cut costs? maybe they don't need 18 cars for every driver. a recent racer mag photo showed just that, 18 in a row with the same number on the side.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ndcrs View Post
                          nascar teams wanta cut costs? maybe they don't need 18 cars for every driver. a recent racer mag photo showed just that, 18 in a row with the same number on the side.
                          That's kinda funny. I thought the spec nature of the COT was supposed to cut down on that sort of thing. Maybe they could cut out the armada of color coordinated golf carts and scooters and the mobile swimming pools for the multi million dollar motor coaches and the LEAR jets....I'm just sayin'....
                          "George Bignotti's Sinmast Wildcat (Designed by Bob Riley); delicately built, carefully prepared and boldly driven by Gordon Johncock." -- Keith Jackson

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ndcrs View Post
                            nascar teams wanta cut costs? maybe they don't need 18 cars for every driver. a recent racer mag photo showed just that, 18 in a row with the same number on the side.
                            Brain France saw to it that the COTurd fixed that.

                            Oh, wait a minute... nevermind.

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                            • #15
                              I don't think NASCAR will completely implode and go away but I am looking forward to the book or case study in a few year on how NASCAR has gone from the top of the mountain top a few years ago to possibly falling farther than they are now. The Nascar familiy itself won't let any of there secrets out but they''ve done a ton of business transactions over the years with people who aren't as tight-lipped themselves. Business men and women aren't going to pizz off the golden goose when the money is flowing but when things start to go south all those nasty behind the scenes stories start to come out.
                              I'd rather have 10% of the world interested in the ICS than 50% of US that NASCAR currently has

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