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    If only he had it in him. If only Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese weren't such a nice guy, such a polished administrator. If only he were someone who'd call a punk a punk.

    So while we're all gushing about the big, bad Big East this week as the most entertaining tournament in sports begins, let us reflect on the real madness: Big East football made a huge statement two months ago. And damn near everyone has forgotten about it.

    "I'm just not the kind of guy who says I told you so," Tranghese says.

    So I'll say it for him, punks.

    OK, there's one eensy-weensy problem. I, too, was among the football-challenged idiots who said Tranghese, the longtime league commissioner, might as well skulk to the corner, curl up in the fetal position and beg for BCS scraps after the ACC had raided the Big East for its three marquee football teams. Now, two years removed from doomsday, the conference could start next season with two teams in the preseason top 10.

    And to think Mountain West Conference commissioner Craig Thompson once had the stones to say his conference and the Big East should have a playoff game for the automatic BCS bid.

    "It's all about perception," West Virginia coach Rich Rodriguez says.

    You can have perception; I'll take reality. Two months ago, WVU brought its battered Big East reputation to the Sugar Bowl to play Georgia. Before Uga VI could yelp, it was 28-0 Mountaineers. The Bulldogs were no slouches, either; they had won the SEC, the nation's best conference, a month earlier by humiliating LSU in the title game. And they were playing WVU

    only 70 miles from the Georgia campus in Athens.

    Now WVU is the hot team, the trendy pick to play in the national title game. Now Rodriguez is tutoring various coaching staffs in how to run his multi-threat spread option. Now the 'Eers have two Heisman candidates-quarterback Pat White and tailback Steve Slaton-and college football's complete attention.

    But that's not all for the little conference that couldn't. There's another team (Louisville) with top 10 potential that is building momentum. Another team with two Heisman candidates (quarterback Brian Brohm and tailback Michael Bush). Another coach (Bob Petrino) who is teaching other staffs about his intricate passing game.

    And I'm not giving up on Pitt. The Panthers have the best facilities in the country, and coach Dave Wannstedt has proved he can recruit with anyone in the Northeast. I still think Wanny will move closer to Pete Carroll than Al Groh on the NFL-to-college list. That's three legitimate championship-caliber programs in a nine-team conference.

    I can think of one conference that can boast a better ratio. Yeah, that's right-West Virginia already beat that league's champion in a little bowl game in January.

    In case you forgot.

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    and coach Dave Wannstedt has proved he can recruit with anyone in the Northeast. I still think Wanny will move closer to Pete Carroll than Al Groh on the NFL-to-college list.
    As a Bears fan, I witnessed way to many 3rd and 15 sweep calls by Wannstedt to seriously doubt that claim. However, I won't mind being proved wrong, since Wanny does remind me a lot of Da Coach.
    Still looking for Carmen San Diego....

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    • #3
      Originally posted by acfinn
      So while we're all gushing about the big, bad Big East this week...

      Who's gushing?

      All I've heard is whining.
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      • #4
        It's good for the Big East that WV was able to hold on against UGA. A 1-3 record in the bowls looks better than 0-4.

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        • #5
          whining would imply that the basketball side wasn't done wrong.....

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          • #6
            we were competitive in all but one of the bowls as well....only one that wasnt was USF's ugly 14-0 loss to NCSU in Charlotte.

            Louisville nearly beat VaTech with a back up walk on QB and RU showed they definitely improved this year with an impressive performance in the Insight Bowl against ASU in Phoenix. 3 of our 4 Bowls were essentially home games for the opponent so I thought we performed well.

            And my Huskers will be really good next year too....

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            • #7
              Whining implies whining. And I've heard too much of it about Cincinnati.
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              • #8
                can you honestly say they shouldnt be in the tourney?

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                • #9
                  Its an opinion. The only opinions that matter were those of the ten people on the selection committee. In their opinion Cincy didn't deserve to be in the tournament. Period. All else is whining.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by acfinn
                    we were competitive in all but one of the bowls as well....only one that wasnt was USF's ugly 14-0 loss to NCSU in Charlotte.

                    Louisville nearly beat VaTech with a back up walk on QB and RU showed they definitely improved this year with an impressive performance in the Insight Bowl against ASU in Phoenix. 3 of our 4 Bowls were essentially home games for the opponent so I thought we performed well.

                    ...
                    You definitely take being a conference fan to new heights. I've heard "we" referred to many times with regard to a particular team, but never a particular conference! Are you really Mike Tranghese? Only a true believer could think that a 1-3 bowl showing from a BCS conference is a good performance!

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                    • #11
                      i think you definitely have to look ebyond the record in that instance though. Had Louisville not been without Brian Brohm the Gator Bowl is a blow out victory for the Cardinals. If Rutgers doesnt have to play a team less than 10 miles from their campus in a bowl game then they probably pull off a win as well. The fact that the teams competed against other bcs teams in bowl games proves the BE belongs. It by no means was "made to look bad" this bowl season.

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                      • #12
                        "Had Louisville not been without Brian Brohm the Gator Bowl is a blow out victory for the Cardinals. If Rutgers doesnt have to play a team less than 10 miles from their campus in a bowl game then they probably pull off a win as well."

                        Losers make excuses.


                        "And my Huskers will be really good next year too...."

                        Anyone in college sports you are not affiliated with? I mean, any with winning programs? I'll give you credit, it takes courage to stand by a 16-team conference. Thank goodness there are fans like you who'll stand up and support the little guy.


                        "the conference could start next season with two teams in the preseason top 10."

                        Now *there's* an excellent indicator of how good teams are.
                        "Foyt's mere presence is a punch in the face, an inoculation against milquestoast corporatism. There wasn't a car anywhere anyhow anytime that Foyt wouldn't put the boot to, and there hasn't been a race devised he couldn't win."
                        - Jeff MacGregor, Sunday Money

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                        • #13
                          winning programs? wtf, UofL did just go to the Final Four last season in basketball and did finish in the top 20 in football, I think that qualifies as "winning."

                          I have 2 universities that I support, the University of Louisville and Nebraska. Now I will also stand up for the Big East because it's UofL's conference and it has taken a beating from the media in the last year. I didn't realize being a fan of 2 universities though was being affiliated with too many programs. Also, btw the Huskers did win their bowl game and made the college world series last year...also qualifies as winning i might add.

                          Just out of curiousity which school would you be a fan of???

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by acfinn
                            i think you definitely have to look ebyond the record in that instance though. Had Louisville not been without Brian Brohm the Gator Bowl is a blow out victory for the Cardinals. If Rutgers doesnt have to play a team less than 10 miles from their campus in a bowl game then they probably pull off a win as well. The fact that the teams competed against other bcs teams in bowl games proves the BE belongs. It by no means was "made to look bad" this bowl season.
                            If ifs and buts were candy and nuts . . . .

                            The Big East is always going to have to play bowl games in hostile (or at best neutral sites), just like the Big 10 and old Big 8 has had to for decades. That's just a fact of life in cold weather climates (and is the most unfair thing about the current system).

                            To belong among the conferences that are awarded the lucrative BCS automatic bid, they are going to have to win some bowl games, not just "compete".

                            The Mountain West commish has an excellent idea about the play-in game (although it's likely moot now with the addition of the 5th BCS game). That conference just the year before last was 2-1 (both victories over BCS conference opponents) in bowl games with a crushing victory in a BCS game over Pitt. I wonder why there was no clamoring for the Mt. West to get an automatic bid?

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                            • #15
                              "winning programs? wtf, UofL did just go to the Final Four last season in basketball and did finish in the top 20 in football, I think that qualifies as "winning.""
                              "Also, btw the Huskers did win their bowl game and made the college world series last year...also qualifies as winning i might add."

                              I agree. Hence my quote; "Anyone in college sports you are not affiliated with? I mean, any with winning programs?"


                              "I have 2 universities that I support, the University of Louisville and Nebraska."

                              My bad. Perhaps it was you referring to a 16-team conference as "we"
                              that threw me off.

                              "Just out of curiousity which school would you be a fan of???"
                              My alma mater. Oh, and any team playing a Big East team.
                              Last edited by athos1172; 03-15-2006, 06:26 AM.
                              "Foyt's mere presence is a punch in the face, an inoculation against milquestoast corporatism. There wasn't a car anywhere anyhow anytime that Foyt wouldn't put the boot to, and there hasn't been a race devised he couldn't win."
                              - Jeff MacGregor, Sunday Money

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