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I've never understood why its supposedly okay to buy a Chevy made in Mexico or Canada but not okay to buy a Honda made in Ohio or a Toyota made in Indiana.
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Many "American" cars are built in Canada and Mexico. This was actually taking place before NAFTA, although I agree that NAFTA is awful for the United States.
Most "Japanese" cars sold in the United States are built in the United States. Toyota builds all their Camry's here. (They wouldn't build such a bland LCD car in Japan). Then they actually export them to other countries.
What about the new Mini Cooper? A British car built by a German company using an American engine...
What features have the Japanese cars introduced to the U. S. market?
Thin sheet metal, at a time when heavy guage steel was used for car bodies.
Paint that fades under the Texas sun before the payments are done.
Cheap vinyl that puts that nice little fog on the inside of the windows.
Cheap upholstry that wears out before the car is paid for.
The GTI and 2 Jettas that I have owned were made in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, and Wolfsburg, Germany, respectively. At the time of the last purchase, you could tell the point of origin by the VIN.
I don't think I'd buy one made in Mexico either. I cannot understand how NAFTA was ever allowed to happen. Apolitical on almost every other issue, all I have to do is look at the economy in Indiana to loathe that deal.
Originally posted by roadracer ...I don't think I'd buy one made in Mexico either. I cannot understand how NAFTA was ever allowed to happen. Apolitical on almost every other issue, all I have to do is look at the economy in Indiana to loathe that deal.
Perhaps you'd prefer it if Subaru moved their Indiana assembly plant back to the Orient? My Outback Limited was assembled there.
Jobs were going overseas and accross the borders long before NAFTA folks. The border area in South Texas is booming presently, largely because of NAFTA. I'm not thrilled with the provisions which will allow Mexican heavy trucks to use US highways w/o being subject to all the same regulations as the US trucking industry. However, the northeastern and midwestern industrial base did a lot of this to themselves. Union leaders turned a blind eye for too many years to what was developing and then wondered where the jobs went...
Back to the original premise. I've owned three new VW's, an '84 Rabbit GTI, a '99 Passat GLS V-6, and (currently) a '02 New Beetle GLS (assembled in Mexico). They've all been fun to drive and pretty well-built something I can't say about the majority of the GM/Chrysler rental cars I've driven in the last decade.
Originally posted by akhindallas Union leaders turned a blind eye for too many years to what was developing and then wondered where the jobs went...
Ultimately, most Unions do what is good for the Union, not the worker. Their leadership preaches against the "fat cat" owners while becoming "fat cats" themselves. They will reassert their dominance by striking, at the end of which the workers are the ones who usually lose.
On another note, what is a "grey engine foundry"?
One driver's "fuel strategy" is another driver's "speed up or we will park you!"
Originally posted by TxIndyFan What features have the Japanese cars introduced to the U. S. market?
Thin sheet metal, at a time when heavy guage steel was used for car bodies.
Paint that fades under the Texas sun before the payments are done.
Cheap vinyl that puts that nice little fog on the inside of the windows.
Cheap upholstry that wears out before the car is paid for.
You forgot bumpers that, if you hit something at 5 PMH you have a $2000 bill from the body shop and a hacked off insurance comapny.
Um okay what about this: So we can not eat meat since most hispanic work in meat plants since we can not buy VW cause they are made in Mexico by the same type of people.
jewls - i don't care what nationality they are if they are living and working in the U.S.
I don't have a problem with people driving imported cars.
I do.
we have a miata and a silverado.
I don't see my miata as a threat to the U.S auto industry.
the big 3 have made nothing to compete with it.
but mexico, being so close by, with such cheap labor, and i imagine very little in the way of regulation , is an enormous threat, when american companies start closing up shop in the US to move a few hundred miles south.
it sucks and i don't think we should support it. if it costs chrysler/daimler sales because we dont' support it, maybe they'll think twice.
i mean not that chrysler ever really cared about us, but you know now that they are owned by daimler , they sure don't.
and i liked my 98 gti too.
it's just that this border hopping rubbish i have no use for.
really does it make sense to you?
build cars in mexico where it's cheap and hope you can sell em in the U.S where we can afford them.
We get closer to a true global economy everyday.The sooner Americans realize that there are a bunch of hungry people all over this the world, that want a fraction of what we have, and that we will have to step up quality plus workmanship and design to remain on top, with out hiding behind sanctions and tarriffs.
The better off we will be in the long term.
Sorry it hurts right now. Your grandchildren may appreciate it in the future.
As for quality, I bought my second Toyota Camry this week. I have no idea where it was made. I do know that there are few if any domestics that would match the quality and reliability of this car. Thats why I bought it.
Buy the best you can. It's patriotic. If the best is not American, and people don't buy it, the Americans will improve. Everyone's a winner.
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