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  • 32 March Madness Automatic Bids to be determined in the next 2 weeks

    The 1st of the 32 Conference Tournaments to award bids to the NCAA March Madness starts tomorrow. Then 36 chosen by committee. Its a time when every team except in the Ivy League get a shot at making it to the Big Dance.

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    knitpicks:

    The Ivy League has a tournament, and has since 2017. Only the top 4 make it. This year's event is at Yale, after its first two years at Penn. The league announced the tournament will rotate annually among the members starting with Yale this year.

    Actually, not exactly "every team" has a shot. Some conferences eliminate the bottom of their league from their tournaments. The Ivy as noted above takes only the top 4 and the America East, Atlantic Sun, Big West, Conference USA, Horizon, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Southland, Summit, Sun Belt, and SWAC drop the bottom one or two teams to make an even 8 team tournament (or 12 for the 14 team Conference USA).

    That aside I love the conference tournaments, especially in the "mid-majors" where it is one team per league that get in (because the committee will always take a barely above .500 LOSER from a name conference over a 2nd WINNER from a mid-major). First up, the OVC, 8 ET on Saturday from Evansville.

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    • #3
      Thankfully, the Big Ten Tournament is back somewhere with availability next week instead of playing a week early.
      Eff LBD!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SamC View Post
        knitpicks:

        The Ivy League has a tournament, and has since 2017. Only the top 4 make it. This year's event is at Yale, after its first two years at Penn. The league announced the tournament will rotate annually among the members starting with Yale this year.

        Actually, not exactly "every team" has a shot. Some conferences eliminate the bottom of their league from their tournaments. The Ivy as noted above takes only the top 4 and the America East, Atlantic Sun, Big West, Conference USA, Horizon, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Southland, Summit, Sun Belt, and SWAC drop the bottom one or two teams to make an even 8 team tournament (or 12 for the 14 team Conference USA).

        That aside I love the conference tournaments, especially in the "mid-majors" where it is one team per league that get in (because the committee will always take a barely above .500 LOSER from a name conference over a 2nd WINNER from a mid-major). First up, the OVC, 8 ET on Saturday from Evansville.
        What is a 2nd WINNER?
        Eff LBD!

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        • #5
          For example, Wofford (26-4) ,UNCG (26-5) and Furman (24-6) all in the same conference, Nevada (26-3) and Utah State (24-6) in the same conference; and Belmont (25-4) and Murray State (25-4) in the same conference. ALL belong in the NCAAs even if they lose over taking the 8th or 9th LOSER, barely above .500 from a name conference. "But look at all the great teams we lost to" say the LOSERS. Key word is LOSE.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SamC View Post
            For example, Wofford (26-4) ,UNCG (26-5) and Furman (24-6) all in the same conference, Nevada (26-3) and Utah State (24-6) in the same conference; and Belmont (25-4) and Murray State (25-4) in the same conference. ALL belong in the NCAAs even if they lose over taking the 8th or 9th LOSER, barely above .500 from a name conference. "But look at all the great teams we lost to" say the LOSERS. Key word is LOSE.
            Yep.

            The committee has no qualms with giving a bid to the 8th or 9th team in the SEC or Big East, but never the second place team in the Atlantic Sun or Horizon because the small conference team didn't have enough "quality wins". The problem is those non power conference teams wanted to schedule games against power conference teams but were refused because the big programs don't want to face the very probable chance of losing to a small conference team. Power conference teams will only play the non power conference teams if the latter comes to them. It is extremely rare for a Big Ten team, for instance, to actually travel to play a team in the Missouri Valley.

            This sort of thing makes the first round upsets such a pleasure to watch.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by SamC View Post
              For example, Wofford (26-4) ,UNCG (26-5) and Furman (24-6) all in the same conference, Nevada (26-3) and Utah State (24-6) in the same conference; and Belmont (25-4) and Murray State (25-4) in the same conference. ALL belong in the NCAAs even if they lose over taking the 8th or 9th LOSER, barely above .500 from a name conference. "But look at all the great teams we lost to" say the LOSERS. Key word is LOSE.
              Whoa are you sure about "belonging"?.

              Furman, you know their tuition is a cool $49,000 a year Somehow, I bet their basketball team's racial diversity is probably a polar opposite of the student population.
              Seems the Tournament would be better off w/o another Richie Rich school -cap

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SamC View Post
                For example, Wofford (26-4) ,UNCG (26-5) and Furman (24-6) all in the same conference, Nevada (26-3) and Utah State (24-6) in the same conference; and Belmont (25-4) and Murray State (25-4) in the same conference. ALL belong in the NCAAs even if they lose over taking the 8th or 9th LOSER, barely above .500 from a name conference. "But look at all the great teams we lost to" say the LOSERS. Key word is LOSE.
                I'm still not sure I get what a 2nd winner is, other than just a team that also lost. First loser/eighth loser, they all lost so now it is just what do different losses mean. It isn't like there are that many conferences with 8/9 entries, anyway. I get the idea of wanting more small conference teams in, but don't think the winner/loser delineation you are making is particularly accurate.
                Eff LBD!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rodneyh View Post
                  Whoa are you sure about "belonging"?.

                  Furman, you know their tuition is a cool $49,000 a year Somehow, I bet their basketball team's racial diversity is probably a polar opposite of the student population.
                  Seems the Tournament would be better off w/o another Richie Rich school -cap
                  It’s no secret the NCAA wants teams with larger followings in the Big Dance. Furman, Princeton, Hofstra, etc aren’t going to draw fans like even a 9th place major conference team will, especially if the team is a traditional basketball power having a down year (cough, Indiana) . It’s all about the $$$ with the NCAA....unless it comes to paying players, lol.
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                  • #10
                    First to be decided this Saturday the Ohio Valley Conference

                    Then on Sunday 3 more qualify Atlantic Sun, Big South, Missouri Valley.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by stockblock View Post
                      First to be decided this Saturday the Ohio Valley Conference

                      Then on Sunday 3 more qualify Atlantic Sun, Big South, Missouri Valley.
                      I always enjoy Championship Week.

                      It is followed by Selection Sunday when teams with automatic bids celebrate like they won the thing for some reason when they are announced.
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                      • #12
                        We have our first qualifier as Murray State (27-5) punches a ticket to the big dance for the 2nd year in a row by winning the Ohio Valley Tournament,

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                        • #13
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                          • #14
                            Interesting how the Atlantic Sun final is being played in the Central time zone...
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                            • #15
                              3 More join Murray State at the Big Dance today.

                              Liberty (28-6) wins Atlantic Sun
                              Bradley (20-14) wins Missouri Valley
                              Gardner Webb (23-11) wins Big South for 1st bid ever to the Big Dance.

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