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  • Reality & Brett Favre

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...sal&id=3281535


    Favre barely makes my Top 10 of All Time (behind Steve Young and ahead of Tarkington).
    Lose the mega-downforce and let's separate the men from the boys!

  • #2
    I think you intended this for the OT forum but, as heated as any discussion on this topic will probably get, maybe this is the correct forum!
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    • #3
      Here's all you need to know about great quarterbacks:

      Otto Graham
      10 year career
      10 championship games
      7-3 record in those games
      That is GREATNESS!!!!!!!
      Some fans claim one series or another runs "real race cars." What's everybody else running, fake race cars? :confused:

      INDYCAR - NOW IZODIER THAN EVER!

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      • #4
        ESPN Fan voting:
        Rank-Player-#1 Votes
        1 Montana (27,826) 1,267,553
        2 Favre (19,563) 1,155,152
        3 Marino (4,917) 1,046,675
        4 Elway (4,284) 1,004,116
        5 Brady (4,065) 863,074
        6 P. Manning (1,943) 861,422
        7 Unitas (3,725) 838,243
        8 Bradshaw (929) 723,401
        9 Young (394) 671,064
        10 Starr (672) 638,382
        11 Aikman (635) 608,451
        12 Staubach (435) 550,212
        13 Namath (299) 451,300
        14 Tarkenton (211) 383,654
        15 Baugh (283) 358,017
        16 Graham (570) 351,088
        17 Fouts (67) 339,085
        18 Moon (94) 291,591
        19 Griese (33) 281,557
        20 Simms (125) 274,426
        "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made."
        ~~Groucho Marx
        I have the hots for Khaleesi...

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        • #5
          If you started to remove Favre's records one at a time.........wins, TD's, completions, yardage, consecutive starts, etc........

          ........how far do you have to go before he wouldn't be as popular as he now is?

          Fans aren't prone to pragmatic assessments.

          Favre is more than a professional athlete........he's a personality.

          So.....is it the fault of the media for erroneously creating that personality? I don't think so. He is what he is, and for thousands....that was enough.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by comfortably numb
            ESPN Fan voting:
            Rank-Player-#1 Votes
            1 Montana (27,826) 1,267,553
            2 Favre (19,563) 1,155,152
            3 Marino (4,917) 1,046,675
            4 Elway (4,284) 1,004,116
            5 Brady (4,065) 863,074
            6 P. Manning (1,943) 861,422
            7 Unitas (3,725) 838,243
            8 Bradshaw (929) 723,401
            9 Young (394) 671,064
            10 Starr (672) 638,382
            11 Aikman (635) 608,451
            12 Staubach (435) 550,212
            13 Namath (299) 451,300
            14 Tarkenton (211) 383,654
            15 Baugh (283) 358,017
            16 Graham (570) 351,088
            17 Fouts (67) 339,085
            18 Moon (94) 291,591
            19 Griese (33) 281,557
            20 Simms (125) 274,426

            Most people are stupid.

            Most people vote for players they saw play in the last few years.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by thehairpin
              Here's all you need to know about great quarterbacks:

              Otto Graham
              10 year career
              10 championship games
              7-3 record in those games
              That is GREATNESS!!!!!!!


              Wow.

              Otto played on some great TEAMS.

              If this was a thread about the QB who played on the best teams that might be relevant.
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              • #8
                1 Montana (27,826) 1,267,553
                2 Favre (19,563) 1,155,152
                3 Marino (4,917) 1,046,675
                4 Elway (4,284) 1,004,116
                5 Brady (4,065) 863,074
                6 P. Manning (1,943) 861,422
                7 Unitas (3,725) 838,243
                8 Bradshaw (929) 723,401
                9 Young (394) 671,064
                10 Starr (672) 638,382
                11 Aikman (635) 608,451
                12 Staubach (435) 550,212
                13 Namath (299) 451,300
                14 Tarkenton (211) 383,654
                15 Baugh (283) 358,017
                16 Graham (570) 351,088
                17 Fouts (67) 339,085
                18 Moon (94) 291,591
                19 Griese (33) 281,557
                20 Simms (125) 274,426
                Staubach should be higher, Namath shouldn't be on the list.
                Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who is the Keenest of them all?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by StatMan
                  Staubach should be higher, Namath shouldn't be on the list.


                  Agreed.
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                  • #10
                    I don't follow football. That said, Favre is one of my favorites. He has always seemed to play full out, no holding back.

                    When he throws a TD, it appears he is genuinely pumped, all-in, doing it for the love of the game.

                    No thuggery, no whining, no off field BS, just playing football at max level.

                    More athletes that get paid to play should look at Favre to learn what being a "pro" is all about.

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                    • #11
                      Yup and Yup, TD & rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........
                      "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made."
                      ~~Groucho Marx
                      I have the hots for Khaleesi...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rrrr
                        I don't follow football. That said, Favre is one of my favorites. He has always seemed to play full out, no holding back.

                        When he throws a TD, it appears he is genuinely pumped, all-in, doing it for the love of the game.

                        No thuggery, no whining, no off field BS, just playing football at max level.

                        More athletes that get paid to play should look at Favre to learn what being a "pro" is all about.
                        The only thing I can say I never cared about Favre, is when a defense "had his number" on a given day (happened a lot against Tampa Bay and in the dome at Minnesota), he'd stink it up, throw five picks, shrug his shoulders and seemed to say "oh well." Didn't play with a fire sometimes when he was behind. They'd get behind, he'd just start chucking it down the field without much precision, throw yet another pick.

                        It was almost fitting that the last pass attempt of his career was an interception (in overtime) that led directly to the team's elimination.

                        I respect his career, and he will go down as one of the "great," but he won a grand total of one Super Bowl...that puts him in company with such "legends" as Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, etc. I think there's no excuse that he shouldn't have won at least 3 rings.
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                        • #13
                          Could someone give me a thumbnail sketch of Sal Paolantonios impressive sporting accomplishments?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Doctorindy
                            I respect his career, and he will go down as one of the "great," but he won a grand total of one Super Bowl...that puts him in company with such "legends" as Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, etc. I think there's no excuse that he shouldn't have won at least 3 rings.
                            Yeah, he should have been out there playing defense too.

                            Sheesh.

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