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    What the pilot is trying to do here is to go from yawing into the wind to wheel straight on landing. Watch the right wing tip come up and the left one brush the ground.
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  • #2
    I ain't quiet, everybody else is too loud.

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    • #3
      Years ago, at Kill Devil Hills, NC at the Wright Brothers National Memorial, they had an airport adjacent to it that offered rides over the Outer Banks at Cape Hatteras to look at all the shipwrecks in the water. It was pretty clear that day so we saw quite a bit, but the excitement was landing this small 4 seat Cessna the dude was flying. There was a pretty heavy cross wind and we were doing what that jet was doing. Flying sideways down the runway. The pilot made 4 passes before we were able to land. That was pretty wild! I couldn't imagine that happening in a commercial airliner.

      Does anyone know where that video was taken???
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      • #4
        It says it was Hamburg.

        Guess he ran out of rudder. Supprised he could spool it up enough to go around.
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        • #5
          Had I been on that plane, I would have soiled myself several times over.
          ...a puerile junior-high zit-laden bloviating bozo loser blogger using third-rate scatological pseudo-humor talking loud and saying nothing.

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          • #6
            When I took flying lessons, my very first landing was smooth as silk. So was my second and my third and so on. They were so good that weeks later my instructor was warning me that they were too good, that I needed to bounce one in every once and a while. On my second solo, I approached the strip and noticed a group of people standing on the ground. Turns out it was my present instructor, my former instructor, the guy that owned the airport, the guy that owned the plane I was flying and a couple of guys that hanagered their planes at that airport. My instructor had told me to make a couple of touch and goes when I was ready to come in and then land on the third one. Between the second and third one, the wind shifted and I was suddenly real low and real slow and only about 30 feet to the side of the runway. It took some doing, with a lot of stall warnings, but I saved it. My instructor came on and asked me if I wanted to wait and try to land later, but I told him I was ok. So he advised me to use some hangars as a wind break which worked perfectly. He later told me he was bragging to all of them about my smooth landings when he heard the previously limp windsock pop. Since I wasn't hurt and the plane wasn't hurt, he decided it was my best landing ever.
            Some people will do nearly anything in order to be able to not do anything.

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            • #7
              Credit the training these pilots have received for saving the ship!
              RIP Dan Wheldon :(

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              • #8
                flared a just a tad early, don'cha think?
                "You people worry too much. Strive for change. Root for your favorites. Enjoy the racing. Drop the flag." rev-ed, 3/04

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                • #9
                  Yeah but can he take off from a treadmill?
                  Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who is the Keenest of them all?

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                  • #10
                    That was either a really good crew or a really damn lucky one. When they dropped that wing I was almost sure we were about to see a fireball.
                    "Only a fool fights in a burning house."-Kang

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                    • #11
                      That's what's called a "crab to a kick out". Stock and trade for a Chetah. Spent half the landing in Chetah's looking out the left side window at the runway...

                      Chetah's had the big vertical tale from the Tiger that really helped. They also had bonded skins and the damn things wouldn't slow down worth a damn.

                      Switched to a Cesna and had to learn how to land all over again!

                      ZOOOM
                      "Doc, just set them fingers sose I can hold the wheel"
                      James Hurtubise, June, 1964

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                      • #12
                        I was on an American Airlines flight in the mid to late 80s going to watch one of my daughters play softball in San Antonio and when we got there they had severe thunderstorms and a tornado had crossed the runway............We were low on fuel and the Captain decided to get into a pattern around the airport for a while. When the fuel problem became worse I was listening on the pilots channel when I heard other planes trying to decide whether to land or not.............Our guy said " OK, If none of you ****** want to try it I'm game...............
                        As we headed down it got very rough and I remember the chick sitting behind me throwing up all over me. I told my wife that this guy must be an old Korean Fighter Pilot........When we got down to the runway we caught a wind shear and I swear the left wing touched the ground.....then he gave it everything it had and we went back up and came around and he landed it..............When we got off I looked at the crew and the pilot was this grey headed old guy with 2 teeth missing so I said " Korea" ? He said " Yep I was ".....my wife just shook her head................
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dog-ring
                          I was on an American Airlines flight in the mid to late 80s going to watch one of my daughters play softball in San Antonio and when we got there they had severe thunderstorms and a tornado had crossed the runway............We were low on fuel and the Captain decided to get into a pattern around the airport for a while. When the fuel problem became worse I was listening on the pilots channel when I heard other planes trying to decide whether to land or not.............Our guy said " OK, If none of you ****** want to try it I'm game...............
                          As we headed down it got very rough and I remember the chick sitting behind me throwing up all over me. I told my wife that this guy must be an old Korean Fighter Pilot........When we got down to the runway we caught a wind shear and I swear the left wing touched the ground.....then he gave it everything it had and we went back up and came around and he landed it..............When we got off I looked at the crew and the pilot was this grey headed old guy with 2 teeth missing so I said " Korea" ? He said " Yep I was ".....my wife just shook her head................
                          Probably one of those F-86 guys that would use every last drop of kerosene looking for MiGs up over the Yalu, run out of fuel at 30,000 feet on the way back while still over North Korea, and dead-stick it into Kimpo-after declaring an emergency, and yet being told by the tower he was Number Two in the pattern because Number One was also a flamed out F-86 in the same situation....The kind of thing that Iven Kincheloe, Buzz Aldrin, John Glenn and Gus Grissom used to do....
                          "Only a fool fights in a burning house."-Kang

                          "If you listen to fools....The Maaahhhhb Ruuuules....."-Ronnie James Dio

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                          • #14
                            "Die beinahe verunglückte Lufthansa-Maschine wurde beim Landeanflug auf den Hamburger Flughafen nicht vom 39-jنhrigen Kapitنn Oliver A., sondern seiner 24 Jahre alten Co-Pilotin Maxi J. geflogen."


                            It was the 24 year old female co-pilot flying the plane. I bet she needed new panties.

                            A bit better quality video

                            http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0gqc-u9-Xg

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                            • #15
                              The Associated Press
                              2008-03-04 17:18:42.0
                              Current rank: # 179 of 8,474

                              HAMBURG, Germany - Federal investigators said Tuesday that a Lufthansa jet that grazed the runway as it attempted to land amid gusting wind - a dramatic incident captured on amateur video - was being flown by the co-pilot.

                              Germany's Federal Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Investigation confirmed a report in the newspaper Bild that the plane was being flown by the co-pilot and not the more-experienced pilot.

                              Stefanie Stotz, a spokeswoman for Cologne-based Deutsche Lufthansa AG said the company would not comment on the report or identify the crew in the cockpit, citing the ongoing investigation.

                              "We never go into details on who was at the wheel. It is just Lufthansa's policy," she told The Associated Press.

                              But she said the successful landing, which happened on the Airbus A320's second try, was evidence of the "mutual teamwork that led to the safe touchdown the second time around."

                              The plane, with 131 passengers aboard, was bound for Hamburg airport on a flight from Munich during a storm Saturday. As it approached, the craft was caught by gusting wind as it tried to land, causing the tip of the aircraft's left wing to graze the runway before it pulled back aloft.

                              The incident left many of the passengers in shock.

                              "When the plane started again (after grazing its wing on the runway) I nearly passed out, I was in shock, I stopped breathing," Laura Mathes told German television. "Then I forgot about everything else around me, and my aunt took care of me and calmed me down."

                              Despite the experience, Sonja Lhota said she would continue to fly on Lufthansa, Germany's biggest airline.

                              "I must say that I will choose Lufthansa again, because you always know what you will get," she told German television.

                              The Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Investigation is still investigating the incident, including why the runway was in use amid the gusting wind.

                              Axel Raab, a spokesman for Deutsche Flugsicherung, which runs German air traffic control operations, said he believed neither tower nor pilot had done anything wrong. He praised the pilot for "a very professional maneuver."

                              The plane was repaired and put back into service Sunday.
                              not sure why the Captain was not at controls in a high difficulty landing

                              on another note the wind is likely ALSO a contributing factor to why they survived - with that much wind they were probably carrying a lot of throttle making full power spool up quicker on go around attempt ...

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