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  • DST costs Hoosiers $8.6 million dollars (merged threads)

    http://indiana.typepad.com/fwob/2008...ht-saving.html

    Excerpt:

    "Having the entire state switch to daylight-saving time each year, rather than stay on standard time, costs Indiana households an additional $8.6 million in electricity bills. They conclude that the reduced cost of lighting in afternoons during daylight-saving time is more than offset by the higher air-conditioning costs on hot afternoons and increased heating costs on cool mornings."

    UNBELIEVEABLE! :mad:

    The geniuses who supported DST for Indiana told us that it would be good for our economy, and they pointed to a 30-year-old study to "prove" that it would reduce our energy usage.

    Suprise! I know, get over it.
    No weather forecasts are ever guaranteed, even if confidence level is high. Even a 99% probability will miss 1% of the time. That's the best anybody can do when predicting highly complex events.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Ren Butler
    "Having the entire state switch to daylight-saving time each year, rather than stay on standard time, costs Indiana households an additional $8.6 million in electricity bills. They conclude that the reduced cost of lighting in afternoons during daylight-saving time is more than offset by the higher air-conditioning costs on hot afternoons and increased heating costs on cool mornings."
    So if I read this correctly, DST makes mornings colder and afternoons hotter.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by MichaelP
      So if I read this correctly, DST makes mornings colder and afternoons hotter.
      No, it changes people patterns of when they are home and in need of lighting and temperature control.
      No weather forecasts are ever guaranteed, even if confidence level is high. Even a 99% probability will miss 1% of the time. That's the best anybody can do when predicting highly complex events.

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      • #4
        This horse died some time ago.

        If you need something to squawk about, try the property tax issue.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by diftw
          This horse died some time ago.


          Actually, the horse died decades ago. But one side kept pushing the issue despite losing thirty straight times. They finally won once and now they declare it over.

          Sorry, doesn't work that way.
          No weather forecasts are ever guaranteed, even if confidence level is high. Even a 99% probability will miss 1% of the time. That's the best anybody can do when predicting highly complex events.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ren Butler
            No, it changes people patterns of when they are home and in need of lighting and temperature control.


            This time of year my furnace is on 24/7. In the summer my A/C is on 24/7.
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            • #7
              Savings on energy costs were never my motivation to support DST.

              Our youth sports programs save a tremendous amount of money thanks to DST.

              How does the furnace time get affected by DST?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ren Butler
                http://indiana.typepad.com/fwob/2008...ht-saving.html

                Excerpt:

                "Having the entire state switch to daylight-saving time each year, rather than stay on standard time, costs Indiana households an additional $8.6 million in electricity bills. They conclude that the reduced cost of lighting in afternoons during daylight-saving time is more than offset by the higher air-conditioning costs on hot afternoons and increased heating costs on cool mornings."

                UNBELIEVEABLE! :mad:

                The geniuses who supported DST for Indiana told us that it would be good for our economy, and they pointed to a 30-year-old study to "prove" that it would reduce our energy usage.

                Suprise! I know, get over it.
                Isn't that a dollar per person, per year?
                There's really no such thing as Gary the Moose, Sybil.

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                • #9
                  These threads are just too funny.
                  Eff LBD!

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                  • #10
                    DST Rawks!!!!

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                    • #11
                      ...I was totally against DST, and I still miss the early sunrises in the summer. However I will admit to kinda liking it staying light out until 10 o'clock at night. Regarding the profitability of DST, a red flag almost always immediately goes up whenever a politician tells me something will make money....that's almost basically a promise that in reality it won't.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by indyracefan
                        a red flag almost always immediately goes up whenever a politician tells me something will make money....that's almost basically a promise that in reality it won't.


                        Brilliant!!!

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                        • #13
                          Let me get this straight... people used more energy now than a couple of years ago and this group attributes that SOLELY to DST? What about my household that uses more electricity now because we have more electrical devices but have been on DST the whole time?


                          Find what you want with the results, I guess.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Truth Detector
                            Savings on energy costs were never my motivation to support DST.
                            Understood. But that was one of the reasons cited by the hucksters who sold us this lemon.

                            Yeah, I know: the politicians lie about everything. Excuse me if I'm not okay with that.
                            No weather forecasts are ever guaranteed, even if confidence level is high. Even a 99% probability will miss 1% of the time. That's the best anybody can do when predicting highly complex events.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rev-ed
                              Let me get this straight... people used more energy now than a couple of years ago and this group attributes that SOLELY to DST? What about my household that uses more electricity now because we have more electrical devices but have been on DST the whole time?
                              If they knew what they were doing, I'm sure they adjusted for that.

                              I know that my wife will be using more electricity in the morning when we "spring back" in a couple weeks. Not to mention having to drive to work in the dark again. :mad:
                              No weather forecasts are ever guaranteed, even if confidence level is high. Even a 99% probability will miss 1% of the time. That's the best anybody can do when predicting highly complex events.

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