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    Originally posted by lddk24fan View Post
    I think he can take the 47 ride full time next year but he has to decide if he would rather run outside the top 20 every week or take his chances in IndyCar.
    He's filling in for the for the 5 races that car was unsponsored. I believe the Main sponsors are tied to labonte. If he brings the sponsors he should be back or moving them elsewhere else along with his past champions provision. They will need someone with a sponsor or find one on their own. I hate NASCAR btw.

  • #2
    Originally posted by wreckinturnone View Post
    I hate NASCAR btw.


    Why did you feel compelled to add this? I don't get the need for IndyCar fans to denigrate NASCAR...as if it proves they (and the ICS) are superior.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rrrr View Post


      Why did you feel compelled to add this? I don't get the need for IndyCar fans to denigrate NASCAR...as if it proves they (and the ICS) are superior.
      Well hate shows at least interest or passion towards it......

      I myself am Apathetic towards Nascar product itself if not a maybe a bit just a little annoyed by its unjust media dominance.

      If someone is to hate Nascar they have the right to express and maybe because of it evolution from a Motorsports to a Motor based entertainment like Monster Trucks. It may have nothing to do with a feel of superiority but more of how it has damaged the sport of racing in general. As a former Nascar fan I understand, it is also a bit annoying that the media equates all US racing to Nascar and there negative influence on all other forms of racing. One example is racers like AJ pushing himself into a "racing: discipline that is not as well suited to his driving experience.

      That is one of many examples, that he express his thought on that, is no more less valid than someone who like it.
      You cannot wrangle chaos. You can only try to plan for it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rrrr View Post


        Why did you feel compelled to add this? I don't get the need for IndyCar fans to denigrate NASCAR...as if it proves they (and the ICS) are superior.
        As if Nascar and its fans never do that.
        Whatever the right thing to do is.....expect IndyCar to do the opposite.
        Current Top 5 Drivers: 1) Dixon 2) Newgarden 3) Pagenaud 4) Power 5) Rahal

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Racing Steward View Post
          As if Nascar and its fans never do that.
          We can be better than that.

          I for one will also be returning to Fontana this fall.-cap
          It's a Hoosier thing, you wouldn't understand...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rrrr View Post


            Why did you feel compelled to add this? I don't get the need for IndyCar fans to denigrate NASCAR...as if it proves they (and the ICS) are superior.
            Agreed. I don't follow NASCAR at all but I realize there are a great many fans (including here) who do.
            "I would really like to go to NASCAR. I really enjoy NASCAR and if I could be there in a couple of years that's where I'd want to be." - Jeff Gordon (after testing a Formula Super Vee)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Racing Steward View Post
              As if Nascar and its fans never do that.
              Ah, the old "Well, he did it first!" defense.

              That makes it okay.
              "I would really like to go to NASCAR. I really enjoy NASCAR and if I could be there in a couple of years that's where I'd want to be." - Jeff Gordon (after testing a Formula Super Vee)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Racing Steward View Post
                As if Nascar and its fans never do that.
                I'd sure like to see some evidence of NASCAR going out of their way to put down Indycar racing, if you could.

                Originally posted by ttturner68 View Post
                Well hate shows at least interest or passion towards it......

                I myself am Apathetic towards Nascar product itself if not a maybe a bit just a little annoyed by its unjust media dominance.

                If someone is to hate Nascar they have the right to express and maybe because of it evolution from a Motorsports to a Motor based entertainment like Monster Trucks. It may have nothing to do with a feel of superiority but more of how it has damaged the sport of racing in general. As a former Nascar fan I understand, it is also a bit annoying that the media equates all US racing to Nascar and there negative influence on all other forms of racing. One example is racers like AJ pushing himself into a "racing: discipline that is not as well suited to his driving experience.

                That is one of many examples, that he express his thought on that, is no more less valid than someone who like it.



                Because more what I see is the apathy, they know it exists, they know the cars and racing is different they just don't care for it. There isn't the constant harping on hatred like some Indycar fans seem to relish in. Love Indycar racing or whatever with every breath you take but to be so insistent and being so consistent in WANTING to talk about how much hatred one has for NASCAR is something unique to those Indycar fans. Most would agree life isn't a ladder and you don't climb higher by stepping on someone else so they look lower, except the few who subscribe to the idea that's the route to success for Indycar.
                "You can't arrest those guys, they're folk heroes"
                "They're criminals"
                "Well most folk heroes started out as criminals"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Racing Steward View Post
                  As if Nascar and its fans never do that.
                  Oh, well, that makes it OK then.

                  From what I can tell very few NASCAR fans comment on IndyCar. They don't care.

                  By contrast, every time NASCAR gets inserted into a thread on this forum multiple snarky little comments are made about the series. I couldn't care less...I just wonder about the juvenile insecurity which produces responses like these in the IndyCar forum:

                  I've hated NASCAR since the Chase, and have given it a few chances since then...
                  The general NASCAR fan enjoys NASCAR because they are told this is racing and this is enjoyable, with no clear explanation of why watching 43 tin box billboards driving around in circles for 4 hours is exciting. Ever wonder why so many "fans" cheer when there is an accident? It's because something ACTUALLY HAPPENED!
                  This isn't Taxicab racing, hence there is no need to try and contrive rubbish like the Chase to try and make it interesting.
                  I know it is convenient to pin everything from swine flu to dumbed down racing on NASCAR, but the truth is they only provide what the dumbed down people want.
                  NASCAR is popular because they market to Joe Sixpack that doesn't know **** about real racing and is simply "won over" by good marketing and WWE-style entertainment. I like to call it the "rubbin' is racin'" mentality.
                  Just please stop with the nascar comparisons. Nascar isn't racing.
                  I can't stand watching a NASCAR race. To me. NASCAR is wrestling on wheels. If I didn't know any better, I would swear it's scripted just like wrestling. Every time I flip the NASCAR race on, it's under a yellow flag that lasts twenty minutes. then they go green for five laps and throw another yellow. IMO, NASCAR is all about the personalities, and the racing is an afterthought.
                  I think the average nascar fan has the IQ of a potato. That is the only explanation I can think of for them getting Nascar confused with racing. They should put Nascar where it belongs at the county fair, which ever one is the last car running wins the 500$ grandprize and a kiss from the 4-H Queen or sister.
                  This is the problem with you NASCAR morons. Your perspective regarding racing is limited to what NASCAR has shoved down your throat.
                  Not all NASCAR fans are morons, but certainly a good percentage of them are.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Racing Steward View Post
                    As if Nascar and its fans never do that.
                    Tit for tat is no excuse, nor is it appreciated.
                    There's really no such thing as Gary the Moose, Sybil.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rrrr View Post
                      Oh, well, that makes it OK then.

                      From what I can tell very few NASCAR fans comment on IndyCar. They don't care.

                      By contrast, every time NASCAR gets inserted into a thread on this forum multiple snarky little comments are made about the series. I couldn't care less...I just wonder about the juvenile insecurity which produces responses like these in the IndyCar forum:
                      Would've been nice to have the links to all those, after all that work
                      There's really no such thing as Gary the Moose, Sybil.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by doitagain View Post
                        Would've been nice to have the links to all those, after all that work
                        Just use the search function, they all came from the IndyCar forum using the single word query "NASCAR".

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rrrr View Post
                          Just use the search function, they all came from the IndyCar forum using the single word query "NASCAR".
                          That includes an awful lot of legitimate posts. I aready searched back to May and found two, not sure if they were on your list.

                          Just saying you had the locations, the links would have saved an awful lot of time. As would reporting them when they occurred.
                          There's really no such thing as Gary the Moose, Sybil.

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                          • #14
                            Some were quite old. I know you delete a lot of those type of posts, although there's no shortage of repeats.

                            Such is the burden of the moderator.

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                            • #15
                              Much ado about nothing----as usual.
                              "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made."
                              ~~Groucho Marx
                              I have the hots for Khaleesi...

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